they don't. that was the first thing I tried to look for. -eric
On Apr 12, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > You might look at the macport or homebrew projects as they sport the building > of many unix packages. > I happen to use homebrew here and have built emacspeak to run on my mac. > Haven't tried java or anyh of that but it might be as simple as entering the > command: > brew jave > and it goes out and gets the necessary dependencies and all that. Like I say, > not sure if they have build scripts for java or not. Might give that a look. > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:37:05PM -0700, Eric Oyen wrote: >> amending my last email... >> >> I wonder if I can snag the source packages for JDK, JRE and other related >> packages from the OpenBSD project ports tree? since both OS X and OpenBSD >> have the same genetic OS roots, and the execution environments are >> essentially the same from a developer's point of view. This is something I >> may need to look at. >> >> -eric >> >> On Apr 11, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> I don't use Hotmail but I should clarify that JavaScript and Java are two >>> different things which, unfortunately, share a similar name. Javascript is >>> an interpreted language and the engine is baked into each browser so Safari >>> uses one that is not the same as Chrome. They all adhere to a common >>> standard from ECMA so some folks refer to it as ECMAScript. Java on the >>> other hand is a compiled language used to build apps and servers. It has >>> been used in the past to make 'applets' which run inside the browser but >>> there is really little need for that anymore and is generally frowned upon >>> as a waste of resources. I doubt that Hotmail uses any Java in their pages >>> and you can verify this by turning it off in the Java Preferences utility. >>> I suspect Hotmail, like most other web apps, is just a boatload of >>> javascript. >>> >>> That said, I did try logging into a hotmail account and while I found the >>> navigation and UI painful, Safari didn't crash on me. This was on my laptop >>> running 10.7 with all the updates. Might be something else throwing things >>> for a loop. I did get a Safari Busy for about 2 seconds when I first went >>> to the inbox but that might be because the test account had a lot of spam >>> in it. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 4/11/12 5:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >>>> well folks. >>>> >>>> it seems that I have run up against this brick wall. so I started >>>> troubleshooting why hotmail.com causes my browser to crash. >>>> according to the error reporting console in webkit, hotmail.com makes >>>> several calls to javascripts that aren't included with Apple's JRE. this >>>> means that some or all of hotmail may be inaccessible at random times. I >>>> even disabled javascript altogether and found that the entire hotmail site >>>> displayed as a blank scroll area. What this means is that hotmail isn't >>>> going to be very usable for any future versions of javascript on OS X. >>>> >>>> also, I try to hit the contact us link and the browser immediately crashes >>>> here. >>>> >>>> what oracle (owners of sun java) needs to do is enforce some standard that >>>> requires that everyone use supported calls to javascripts. I am so bloody >>>> tired of having to deal with apple centric JRE, microsoft specific java >>>> code and the version that I can get to work in linux (which is a full >>>> version).it seems to me that everyone who uses java code needs to be >>>> operating on the same standards. this would eliminate a lot of problems, >>>> especially for us OS X screen reader users. to give you guys an idea how >>>> bad it is, I can't even give site feedback because their javascript opens >>>> a frame that locks you in a loop trying to fill out the required text >>>> fields. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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