amending my last email... I wonder if I can snag the source packages for JDK, JRE and other related packages from the OpenBSD project ports tree? since both OS X and OpenBSD have the same genetic OS roots, and the execution environments are essentially the same from a developer's point of view. This is something I may need to look at.
-eric On Apr 11, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I don't use Hotmail but I should clarify that JavaScript and Java are two > different things which, unfortunately, share a similar name. Javascript is an > interpreted language and the engine is baked into each browser so Safari uses > one that is not the same as Chrome. They all adhere to a common standard from > ECMA so some folks refer to it as ECMAScript. Java on the other hand is a > compiled language used to build apps and servers. It has been used in the > past to make 'applets' which run inside the browser but there is really > little need for that anymore and is generally frowned upon as a waste of > resources. I doubt that Hotmail uses any Java in their pages and you can > verify this by turning it off in the Java Preferences utility. I suspect > Hotmail, like most other web apps, is just a boatload of javascript. > > That said, I did try logging into a hotmail account and while I found the > navigation and UI painful, Safari didn't crash on me. This was on my laptop > running 10.7 with all the updates. Might be something else throwing things > for a loop. I did get a Safari Busy for about 2 seconds when I first went to > the inbox but that might be because the test account had a lot of spam in it. > > CB > > On 4/11/12 5:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> well folks. >> >> it seems that I have run up against this brick wall. so I started >> troubleshooting why hotmail.com causes my browser to crash. >> according to the error reporting console in webkit, hotmail.com makes >> several calls to javascripts that aren't included with Apple's JRE. this >> means that some or all of hotmail may be inaccessible at random times. I >> even disabled javascript altogether and found that the entire hotmail site >> displayed as a blank scroll area. What this means is that hotmail isn't >> going to be very usable for any future versions of javascript on OS X. >> >> also, I try to hit the contact us link and the browser immediately crashes >> here. >> >> what oracle (owners of sun java) needs to do is enforce some standard that >> requires that everyone use supported calls to javascripts. I am so bloody >> tired of having to deal with apple centric JRE, microsoft specific java code >> and the version that I can get to work in linux (which is a full version).it >> seems to me that everyone who uses java code needs to be operating on the >> same standards. this would eliminate a lot of problems, especially for us OS >> X screen reader users. to give you guys an idea how bad it is, I can't even >> give site feedback because their javascript opens a frame that locks you in >> a loop trying to fill out the required text fields. >> >> -eric >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
