well, both. when safari (webkit) crashes, it makes references to javascripts and also to java archives. part of the problem is the javascript that microsoft insists on using that causes the local browser and its associated java to crash. I don't get this problem on either yahoo or google (or is it the browser that runs javascripts and the site serving up java, I always get those confused).
in either case, the fault starts with microsoft and how they have the entire live site coded. there are a great many other sites that have similar problems and just about all of them either run code specific to microsoft or they are made largely with flash objects (the latter is of particular trouble for me especially where my cell provider is concerned). what gets me is that site administrators often go for the eye candy (and as recent history shows) end up with greater problems than just accessibility issues. If these administrators (and their employers) would sit down and conceder how best to garner the widest possible audience, then accessibility would probably be considered a fairly important part of that policy. We, the blind (and visually impaired) are making up a greater percentage of the population as time goes on. there will be a moment when our population demographic becomes more than just marginal. it is already approaching non-trivial purportions as we speak. Apple's iDevices are proof of this. what was an unintended market (due to the emergence of a small talking device called the nano) has ballooned into a multi-billion dollar market. we will grow with time and businesses need to realize that now, if only to make more money. call it enlightened business practices. -eric On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm kind of confused. Are you referring to Javascript or Java? They are very > different things, as far as I understand. > > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> well folks. >> >> it seems that I have run up against this brick wall. so I started >> troubleshooting why hotmail.com causes my browser to crash. >> according to the error reporting console in webkit, hotmail.com makes >> several calls to javascripts that aren't included with Apple's JRE. this >> means that some or all of hotmail may be inaccessible at random times. I >> even disabled javascript altogether and found that the entire hotmail site >> displayed as a blank scroll area. What this means is that hotmail isn't >> going to be very usable for any future versions of javascript on OS X. >> >> also, I try to hit the contact us link and the browser immediately crashes >> here. >> >> what oracle (owners of sun java) needs to do is enforce some standard that >> requires that everyone use supported calls to javascripts. I am so bloody >> tired of having to deal with apple centric JRE, microsoft specific java code >> and the version that I can get to work in linux (which is a full version).it >> seems to me that everyone who uses java code needs to be operating on the >> same standards. this would eliminate a lot of problems, especially for us OS >> X screen reader users. to give you guys an idea how bad it is, I can't even >> give site feedback because their javascript opens a frame that locks you in >> a loop trying to fill out the required text fields. >> >> -eric >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
