Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting with headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives the name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing most of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the menu.
Am I still doing something wrong? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" > area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the > sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word "Subject" > and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move onto the the > next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left with VO-left, the > first thing that it will read is the last thing it said when going right, > then it will move back through each item. > > You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the > body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker > to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or > familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were > just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout > of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the > "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the > "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn > about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through the > messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the message > you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that method. > Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is the point > where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper into its > details. > > Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. > > Later... > > On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word for >> word through the date to get to the subject line? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Jennifer, >>> >>> I believe that you missing one Interaction step. >>> >>> • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area >>> again. >>> • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the >>> Subject. >>> • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. >>> • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. >>> >>> What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header >>> areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're >>> Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an >>> object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the >>> second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and >>> therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps >>> outlined above. >>> >>> Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through >>> the air. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>> >>>> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >>>> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't >>>> always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject >>>> then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and >>>> whatever else is on that menu. >>>> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have >>>> to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >>>> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the >>>> name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried routing >>>> the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a thought. >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> Jim >>>> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >>>> >>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate >>>>> to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name >>>>> then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field >>>>> again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. >>>>> >>>>> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It >>>>> won't give me a menu at all. >>>>> >>>>> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. >>>>> I could smash it into a million peaces. >>>>> >>>>> What on earth am I missing. >>>>> >>>>> Jenny >>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try >>>>>> some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is >>>>>> there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? >>>>>>> That's the one I used on windows. >>>>>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. >>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot >>>>>>>> of folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte >>>>>>>> Saga >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Theresa, >>>>>>>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >>>>>>>>> Now, for another harder question. >>>>>>>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >>>>>>>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Stacey, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow >>>>>>>>>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you >>>>>>>>>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>>>>>>>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing >>>>>>>>>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back >>>>>>>>>> on again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you >>>>>>>>>> need to on the items. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the >>>>>>>>>> Forsyte Saga >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to >>>>>>>>>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with >>>>>>>>>>> SnowLeopard. >>>>>>>>>>> If so, how do I do this. >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more 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