jenniffer, i don't think you are doing anything wrong. it works for me every time but i'm using the keyboard on my macbook pro. once on the email address that v o and m for menu should work. i'm sorry i can't help any better. take care, max On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting with > headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives the > name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing most > of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the menu. > > Am I still doing something wrong? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" >> area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the >> sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word >> "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move >> onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left >> with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said >> when going right, then it will move back through each item. >> >> You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the >> body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker >> to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or >> familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were >> just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout >> of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the >> "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the >> "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn >> about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through >> the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the >> message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that >> method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is >> the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper >> into its details. >> >> Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word >>> for word through the date to get to the subject line? >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> >>>> Jennifer, >>>> >>>> I believe that you missing one Interaction step. >>>> >>>> • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area >>>> again. >>>> • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to >>>> the Subject. >>>> • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. >>>> • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. >>>> >>>> What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header >>>> areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're >>>> Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an >>>> object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the >>>> second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and >>>> therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps >>>> outlined above. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through >>>> the air. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >>>>> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't >>>>> always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject >>>>> then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and >>>>> whatever else is on that menu. >>>>> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have >>>>> to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >>>>> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the >>>>> name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried >>>>> routing the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a >>>>> thought. >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> Jim >>>>> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate >>>>>> to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's >>>>>> name then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from >>>>>> field again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. >>>>>> >>>>>> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It >>>>>> won't give me a menu at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. >>>>>> I could smash it into a million peaces. >>>>>> >>>>>> What on earth am I missing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jenny >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try >>>>>>> some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is >>>>>>> there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? >>>>>>>> That's the one I used on windows. >>>>>>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. >>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot >>>>>>>>> of folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the >>>>>>>>> Forsyte Saga >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Theresa, >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >>>>>>>>>> Now, for another harder question. >>>>>>>>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >>>>>>>>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Stacey, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow >>>>>>>>>>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you >>>>>>>>>>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>>>>>>>>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing >>>>>>>>>>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back >>>>>>>>>>> on again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you >>>>>>>>>>> need to on the items. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the >>>>>>>>>>> Forsyte Saga >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to >>>>>>>>>>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with >>>>>>>>>>>> SnowLeopard. >>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how do I do this. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. 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