thanks for your help. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote:
> jenniffer, i don't think you are doing anything wrong. it works for me every > time but i'm using the keyboard on my macbook pro. once on the email address > that v o and m for menu should work. i'm sorry i can't help any better. take > care, max > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting >> with headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives >> the name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing >> most of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the >> menu. >> >> Am I still doing something wrong? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" >>> area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the >>> sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word >>> "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move >>> onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left >>> with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said >>> when going right, then it will move back through each item. >>> >>> You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the >>> body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker >>> to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or >>> familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were >>> just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the >>> layout of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with >>> the "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and >>> the "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to >>> learn about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate >>> through the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get >>> to the message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer >>> that method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. >>> This is the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to >>> dig deeper into its details. >>> >>> Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> >>>> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word >>>> for word through the date to get to the subject line? >>>> >>>> Jenny >>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jennifer, >>>>> >>>>> I believe that you missing one Interaction step. >>>>> >>>>> • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area >>>>> again. >>>>> • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to >>>>> the Subject. >>>>> • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. >>>>> • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. >>>>> >>>>> What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the >>>>> Header areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're >>>>> Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an >>>>> object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the >>>>> second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and >>>>> therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps >>>>> outlined above. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through >>>>> the air. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >>>>>> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply >>>>>> doesn't always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the >>>>>> subject then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, >>>>>> copy and whatever else is on that menu. >>>>>> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have >>>>>> to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >>>>>> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to >>>>>> the name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried >>>>>> routing the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a >>>>>> thought. >>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I >>>>>>> navigate to message headers then interact with it which gives me the >>>>>>> person's name then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow >>>>>>> to the from field again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It >>>>>>> won't give me a menu at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. >>>>>>> I could smash it into a million peaces. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What on earth am I missing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might >>>>>>>> try some more specific questions that might make it easier to get >>>>>>>> help. Is there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble >>>>>>>> with? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? >>>>>>>>> That's the one I used on windows. >>>>>>>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. >>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a >>>>>>>>>> lot of folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the >>>>>>>>>> Forsyte Saga >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Theresa, >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >>>>>>>>>>> Now, for another harder question. >>>>>>>>>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >>>>>>>>>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Stacey, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and >>>>>>>>>>>> arrow keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, >>>>>>>>>>>> you won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>>>>>>>>>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by >>>>>>>>>>>> pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor >>>>>>>>>>>> tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform >>>>>>>>>>>> whichever actions you need to on the items. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the >>>>>>>>>>>> Forsyte Saga >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to >>>>>>>>>>>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with >>>>>>>>>>>>> SnowLeopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how do I do this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 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