One of the double edged swords is that many apps work in the Jaws world because the developer has written jaws-specific scripts for their app. These scripts get around shortcomings in either the screen reader or the app's communication with the accessibility APIs. They are often times written by a contracted 3rd party and, by definition, are brittle. So when the next OS, app or Jaws release comes out the scripts break and have to be fixed and re-released. This cycle is the antithesis of future-proofing. Apple took a different approach where the screen reader and accessibility APIs are robust enough that this scripting shouldn't be needed but it also means that a general app developer needs to care enough to bake accessibility in. This also means they can't just make their app and farm out accessibility to some 3rd party contractor as in the Jaws model. I'm convinced that the Apple model is better long term but am concerned that it requires a general app developer to now become aware of accessibility, which doesn't always happen. The good part is that Apple's development frameworks get a lot of accessibility stuff baked in 'for free'. The downside is that custom widgets or anything special probably needs the developer to do extra accessibility work, which they often do not. So it's not really Apple's fault that Microsoft has written their entire app using their own custom widgets, but it is Microsoft's fault for not hooking their widgets into the well defined accessibility APIs. Likewise for Mozilla and many others.

In the end, I want Apple's futureproof accessibility for free model to work, I'm just unsure if developers are buying into the value of providing accessible apps. The success record there has been kinda spotty.

CB

On 6/25/12 8:08 AM, William Windels wrote:
Hello,
After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal opinionthat 
more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the mac platform.

I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of the 
screenreader voiceover with the osx.
The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and the 
function-keys with the spoken values.
And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with 
voiceover support everywhere.

However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is possible 
on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also iWork's aren't fully 
accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there are several usability issues 
with the browsers on the mac, some ellements of the os , like
Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to navigate 
e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they are in a table and 
in pages, you can't work with tables on a comfortable way.
the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with voiceover...

My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's accessible 
with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be very welcome I 
think.
With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to use all 
the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites.  Perhaps it should push 
apple  to make their screenreader better on a faster speed.

Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet?
I see 2 reasons for this:
1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple should 
have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the external screenreader.
2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the mac 
while there is one built in.
If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility frustrations 
on the mac , should communicate this to other companies like gw micro, freedom 
scientific, baum...

Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome.
kind regards,
William Windels



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