Hi Shen, Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all that work. :) Cheers, Donna
On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Donna, > OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard > drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an > encrypted hard drive. > OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after > installing Mount Lion. > I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install > versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming > for you. > I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the > Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. > Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the > function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. > > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Shen, >> >> When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume >> keys. >> >> The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says >> "Dictation IM has no windows". I squirm around until I get out of that, and >> then end up in another window that says something like "System Core UI has >> no Windows." More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all >> very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no >> issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange >>> things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has >>> experienced. >>> Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple >>> Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. >>> Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login >>> screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? >>> Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you >>> press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is >>> wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you >>> should hear speech. >>> I know this is a pain in the butt. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Matthew, >>>> >>>> Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple >>>> Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna. >>>>> I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess >>>>> it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. >>>>> I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll >>>>> report back on any feedback I get. >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my >>>>>> password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. >>>>>> Still not getting VO at login. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is >>>>>>> it possible the system is still booting up? >>>>>>> Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at >>>>>>> the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the box >>>>>>> again. >>>>>>> I would do a complete shut down, then startup. >>>>>>> Hope that will help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but I >>>>>>>> hope that isn't the only long-term solution. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system prefs >>>>>>>>> paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What if you hit >>>>>>>>> command+F5 to turn it on manually? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn key. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: first possible bug in ML >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, I think I've found my first bug with ML. I no longer have >>>>>>>>>> speech during the log-in process. To test this, shut down your Mac >>>>>>>>>> and reboot. You can still log in, but you will have no speech while >>>>>>>>>> you are doing it. Can anyone confirm? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shen >>> [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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