Hi Alex, The user must log in, otherwise that would be a great idea. Thanks.
Les On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure, in that case. I never had much luck with blackboard, but > haven't had to use it for about three years, so they may have improved things > since I was forced to endure it. I do know that they optimized it for > Internet Explorer, so maybe it is something in Safari? You said you could see > the text visually, which is odd as vo seems to not see it. Is there any way > you could give us a link, or does the page require the user to log in? > On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> I think we tried interacting with the frame, and still could not read the >> text. I should mention that when I tabbed over and highlighted the text in >> the frame, VO did not inform me of any text, so this is why I'm figuring we >> have a problem. >> >> Les >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Have the student interact with the frame, and all should work as expected. >>> Don't forget to stop interacting when you are done reading the text, or vo >>> will keep navigating only what is inside the frame. You can change this in >>> the vo utility (vo-f8) if you want to, under the web tab of the navigation >>> category I believe. >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> I have a student who's trying to use Safari on the Blackboard online >>>>> learning system. In the "Discussion Board" section, we are unable to read >>>>> plain text in a thread because the text is framed. I'm not sure if it's >>>>> possible to remove the frame or somehow navigate the frame. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if this is possible. >>>>> >>>>> Les >>>>> Sent from my iPhone, please forgive typographical errors! >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Blaise, lots of useful links here where you can get loads of material >>>>>> for using the Mac. I'd encourage you to get whatever you feel is >>>>>> appropriate, see below. >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Esther <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! >>>>>>> Date: July 29, 2012 2:27:27 PM EDT >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Gigi and Others, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a VoiceOver downloads page that gives a link to the Lighthouse >>>>>>> for the Blind in San Francisco, but so far it has not been updated for >>>>>>> Mountain Lion. So the links for downloading the VoiceOver Getting >>>>>>> Started Guide in a web browser, and also to the electronic braille >>>>>>> version in .brf format, still point to Lion. As far as I can tell, >>>>>>> versions for Mountain Lion have yet been prepared on these sites. At >>>>>>> some point this page should be updated, but right now it points to Lion >>>>>>> versions: >>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It might help your friend to review some of the Vision Australia >>>>>>> podcasts on working with VoiceOver. Also, you can check the AppleVis >>>>>>> Guides section: >>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides >>>>>>> • "A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader to >>>>>>> VoiceOver On a Mac" >>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-mac >>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-keyboard-shortcuts-mac-os-x >>>>>>> • "General Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/general-keyboard-shortcut-commands-mac-os-x >>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Gestures for Use with a Multi-Touch TrackPad on Mac OS X" >>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-gestures-use-multi-touch-trackpad-mac-os-x >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Incidentally, web versions of the "VoiceOver Getting Started" guides >>>>>>> for Mountain Lion in many different languages seem to be up, I'm a >>>>>>> little puzzled why William didn't automatically get this by arrowing >>>>>>> down to the last element of the VoiceOver help menu (brought up with >>>>>>> VO-H). I don't have Mountain Lion installed yet, so I can't check the >>>>>>> language localizations from the loaded packages, but the general rule >>>>>>> for Mountain Lion seems to be that you append the language localization >>>>>>> code to the web address. So you start with "help.apple.com", slash, >>>>>>> "voiceover", slash, "info", slash, "guide", slash, "10.8", slash, and >>>>>>> then add your localization code. If you don't add a localization, it >>>>>>> defaults to English, and resolves to an ending of >>>>>>> "English.lproj/index.html". This is: >>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In general, most language localization codes are two letters, followed >>>>>>> by a period and the five letter word "lproj" and end with a slash, or a >>>>>>> slash followed by "index.html" (either should work). But the older way >>>>>>> is to type out the language, such as "Dutch" and "German" and >>>>>>> "English", so it's a bit confusing that you use "German.lproj" or >>>>>>> "Dutch.lproj" while French, Greek, Danish, and Finnish use the newer >>>>>>> two letter code convention of "fr.lproj", "el.lproj", "da.lproj", and >>>>>>> "fi.lproj" (with lower case letters). In the case of Chinese, to >>>>>>> distinguish between simplified characters and traditional characters, >>>>>>> the language code adds a two letter country designation in caps after >>>>>>> an underbar: "zh_CN.lproj" and "zh_TW.lproj", so the VoiceOver user >>>>>>> guides in these versions become: >>>>>>> • Chinese (Simplified Characters) >>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_CN.lproj/index.html >>>>>>> • Chinese (Traditional Characters) >>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_TW.lproj/index.html >>>>>>> But in most cases, there's a simple two letter code for the language, >>>>>>> such as "ar" for Arabic, "ja" for Japanese, "pl" for Polish, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone who has trouble viewing current "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in their language can try this scheme, or post >>>>>>> back with questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Esther >>>>>>>> Thanks for the information on the voiceover user guide for Mountain >>>>>>>> lion. I have however, an additional question. Last year, I downloaded >>>>>>>> a brf file from the Apple website for voiceover under snow Leopard. I >>>>>>>> also bought the 2 volume set from the San Francisco Lighthouse, and >>>>>>>> back then there was a link on the Apple web site to go there to do it. >>>>>>>> I have a blind friend who has decided to switch to a Mac. Actually, >>>>>>>> she is going to do something that would be difficult under windows. A >>>>>>>> sighted friend of hers is going to get her Mac first, and my friend is >>>>>>>> going to learn voice over on it. She wants to read the manual ahead of >>>>>>>> time, so do you know if there is another link for getting a DRF file >>>>>>>> for this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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