Les, I successfully use VO with Safari and Blackboard all of the time. It is a good idea to change the settings to "Text only," or "Plain text," I'm not sure how it words it. It will be under "Personalization" or something like that. I just graduated this May and am starting another program this fall, so I don't have an active Blackboard account to look at at the moment.
I do hope this helps, however. Please note that Safari has never given me any problems. Thanks, Harry On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > The user must log in, otherwise that would be a great idea. Thanks. > > Les > On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm not sure, in that case. I never had much luck with blackboard, but >> haven't had to use it for about three years, so they may have improved >> things since I was forced to endure it. I do know that they optimized it for >> Internet Explorer, so maybe it is something in Safari? You said you could >> see the text visually, which is odd as vo seems to not see it. Is there any >> way you could give us a link, or does the page require the user to log in? >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> I think we tried interacting with the frame, and still could not read the >>> text. I should mention that when I tabbed over and highlighted the text in >>> the frame, VO did not inform me of any text, so this is why I'm figuring we >>> have a problem. >>> >>> Les >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Have the student interact with the frame, and all should work as expected. >>>> Don't forget to stop interacting when you are done reading the text, or vo >>>> will keep navigating only what is inside the frame. You can change this in >>>> the vo utility (vo-f8) if you want to, under the web tab of the navigation >>>> category I believe. >>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I have a student who's trying to use Safari on the Blackboard online >>>>>> learning system. In the "Discussion Board" section, we are unable to >>>>>> read plain text in a thread because the text is framed. I'm not sure if >>>>>> it's possible to remove the frame or somehow navigate the frame. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if this is possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, please forgive typographical errors! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Blaise, lots of useful links here where you can get loads of material >>>>>>> for using the Mac. I'd encourage you to get whatever you feel is >>>>>>> appropriate, see below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Esther <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! >>>>>>>> Date: July 29, 2012 2:27:27 PM EDT >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Gigi and Others, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is a VoiceOver downloads page that gives a link to the >>>>>>>> Lighthouse for the Blind in San Francisco, but so far it has not been >>>>>>>> updated for Mountain Lion. So the links for downloading the VoiceOver >>>>>>>> Getting Started Guide in a web browser, and also to the electronic >>>>>>>> braille version in .brf format, still point to Lion. As far as I can >>>>>>>> tell, versions for Mountain Lion have yet been prepared on these >>>>>>>> sites. At some point this page should be updated, but right now it >>>>>>>> points to Lion versions: >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It might help your friend to review some of the Vision Australia >>>>>>>> podcasts on working with VoiceOver. Also, you can check the AppleVis >>>>>>>> Guides section: >>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides >>>>>>>> • "A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader to >>>>>>>> VoiceOver On a Mac" >>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-mac >>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-keyboard-shortcuts-mac-os-x >>>>>>>> • "General Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/general-keyboard-shortcut-commands-mac-os-x >>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Gestures for Use with a Multi-Touch TrackPad on Mac OS X" >>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-gestures-use-multi-touch-trackpad-mac-os-x >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Incidentally, web versions of the "VoiceOver Getting Started" guides >>>>>>>> for Mountain Lion in many different languages seem to be up, I'm a >>>>>>>> little puzzled why William didn't automatically get this by arrowing >>>>>>>> down to the last element of the VoiceOver help menu (brought up with >>>>>>>> VO-H). I don't have Mountain Lion installed yet, so I can't check the >>>>>>>> language localizations from the loaded packages, but the general rule >>>>>>>> for Mountain Lion seems to be that you append the language >>>>>>>> localization code to the web address. So you start with >>>>>>>> "help.apple.com", slash, "voiceover", slash, "info", slash, "guide", >>>>>>>> slash, "10.8", slash, and then add your localization code. If you >>>>>>>> don't add a localization, it defaults to English, and resolves to an >>>>>>>> ending of "English.lproj/index.html". This is: >>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In general, most language localization codes are two letters, followed >>>>>>>> by a period and the five letter word "lproj" and end with a slash, or >>>>>>>> a slash followed by "index.html" (either should work). But the older >>>>>>>> way is to type out the language, such as "Dutch" and "German" and >>>>>>>> "English", so it's a bit confusing that you use "German.lproj" or >>>>>>>> "Dutch.lproj" while French, Greek, Danish, and Finnish use the newer >>>>>>>> two letter code convention of "fr.lproj", "el.lproj", "da.lproj", and >>>>>>>> "fi.lproj" (with lower case letters). In the case of Chinese, to >>>>>>>> distinguish between simplified characters and traditional characters, >>>>>>>> the language code adds a two letter country designation in caps after >>>>>>>> an underbar: "zh_CN.lproj" and "zh_TW.lproj", so the VoiceOver user >>>>>>>> guides in these versions become: >>>>>>>> • Chinese (Simplified Characters) >>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_CN.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>> • Chinese (Traditional Characters) >>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_TW.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>> But in most cases, there's a simple two letter code for the language, >>>>>>>> such as "ar" for Arabic, "ja" for Japanese, "pl" for Polish, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone who has trouble viewing current "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in their language can try this scheme, or >>>>>>>> post back with questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Esther >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information on the voiceover user guide for Mountain >>>>>>>>> lion. I have however, an additional question. Last year, I downloaded >>>>>>>>> a brf file from the Apple website for voiceover under snow Leopard. I >>>>>>>>> also bought the 2 volume set from the San Francisco Lighthouse, and >>>>>>>>> back then there was a link on the Apple web site to go there to do >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> I have a blind friend who has decided to switch to a Mac. Actually, >>>>>>>>> she is going to do something that would be difficult under windows. A >>>>>>>>> sighted friend of hers is going to get her Mac first, and my friend >>>>>>>>> is going to learn voice over on it. She wants to read the manual >>>>>>>>> ahead of time, so do you know if there is another link for getting a >>>>>>>>> DRF file for this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
