Hi, I changed the system voice, but I, at least, still have the delay.  This is 
very interesting.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Harry

On dic 11, 2012, at 11:32 a.m., Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> No. Go to text to speech in system preferences. Voiceover can be set to use
> a different voice itself.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t Keys
> 
> Interestingly.  I have my system voice set to Fred, and I used Fred for all
> other voices, so I'm not sure what would cause the delay.  I just went to
> check the system voice I have set, and the only thing I see under VoiceOver
> Utility is an option for "Default Voice," which is the closest thing I see
> to a system voice.  Is this what you're referring to?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On dic 11, 2012, at 11:17 a.m., Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It will, it will just use the normal system voice, thus causing the delay.
>> Trust me, I've tried it.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:21 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t 
>> Keys
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have that checkbox checke in my VO preferences.  I don't think the 
>> script would function at all, otherwise.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> On dic 11, 2012, at 11:13 a.m., Red.Falcon 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys!
>>> I have heard of sometimes check boxes can become unchecked so I was
>> wondering if those of you having this delay has the [use allow VO  to 
>> be controlled with apple scripts ] has been unchecked somehow!
>>> I have no delay here using Mountain Lion!
>>> Might be worth a check!
>>> 
>>> hth Colin
>>> 
>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 16:52, Scott Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello there,
>>>> 
>>>> What type of scripts are these the plain Apple script language?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/11/2012 08:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I use the Alex voice for everything, so I don't think that's a
>> factor in my case. However, the question of more responsiveness after 
>> one press is definitely a factor. I only notice the delay the first 
>> time I press the key combo in a long time. Subsequent presses are much
> more responsive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will report this to Apple.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would not hesitate to ask Apple for any fix you can think of, 
>>>>>> big or
>> small. They can prioritize things, but they will never know to fix a 
>> problem if they don't know it exists. As to clicks, you can mute vo 
>> through the help menus (vo-h) or by setting up a keyboard or trackpad
> commander to do it.
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Jürgen Fleger 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Interesting. Here's usually a delay of 3 seconds maximum. I just 
>>>>>>> tried
>> it even without any delay. Might be because it was not the first time
> today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Topic delay: I experience an annoying delay on web pages after
>> pressing VO + a to read from the cursor. For example to read an 
>> article on Wikipedia is no fun. It takes ages. For me there's to much 
>> delay after full stops and commas and when a link is announced. Also 
>> the info how many objects a header on a web page has takes to much 
>> time for me. At least on my german OS VO announces the objects in a 
>> header followed by a very long pause. Yes, I know of the Reader. But 
>> it's also annoying to hear again and again "clickable" at the end of a
> line.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But honestly: I don't dare to ask Apple for such small things as 
>>>>>>> long
>> as VoiceOver contains the real big bugs as pdf or tables in text 
>> documents or the VoiceOver calendar issue in iOS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>> Am 11.12.2012 um 08:20 schrieb Harry Hogue <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alex and Teresa,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have found this same issue, and have this theory as well.  I 
>>>>>>>> do not
>> often use the keyboard commander VoiceOVer scripts for this reason, 
>> such as
>> opt+B for battery, opt+M for Mail, etc.  With each of these commands 
>> opt+there
>> is a lengthy delay that doesn't make the command practical to use much.
>> Once it is loaded into memory, it then works fine.  As for the voice, 
>> I use Fred on a regular basis, and still find this delay even though 
>> the voice used for the script is the same one that VoiceOver uses at other
> times.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On dic 10, 2012, at 10:56 p.m., Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Me too. My theory is that the script to speak the information 
>>>>>>>>> has to be pulled from the hard drive and loaded into ram, then 
>>>>>>>>> the voice used has to be looked for and loaded if it is not 
>>>>>>>>> already being used. Does the script use a voice that vo is not 
>>>>>>>>> using by default? If so, I have a script that uses vo's own 
>>>>>>>>> speech,
>> speeding the process a good deal.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 12/11/12, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed for quite some time that when I press 
>>>>>>>>>> right-option-t for time as the default for the VO keyboard 
>>>>>>>>>> commander time and date, there's about a twenty-second delay 
>>>>>>>>>> before anything is spoken. I'm just curious if anyone else has
>> experienced this.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the 
>>>>>>>>>> Forsyte Saga
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