Hi there
I am having no problem using numbers with my business, but I would like to say 
a few things about Excel. I hope that when you get voiceover to work with Excel 
that it's easier to set up then it is with Excel and Jaws. When I was using 
Excel and jaws, I never could remember those commands to get John's to tell 
what the names of the columns and rows were. I'm not sure I can explain this so 
it makes sense. Whenever I had to set up a spreadsheet, it was a royal pain 
because I had to look up how to do it every time.

What I'm talking about has to do with the screen reader telling you where you 
are. In numbers, Voice overuses the top row as a header and the left-hand 
column as a header is well so that you can get it to tell you information as to 
where you are.
Regards
Gigi

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On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Kliphton A M <[email protected]> wrote:

> Of course this is my own opinion.  But I think that hurdle is real high on 
> making voice over as accessible with office, as Jaws or window eyes.  The way 
> that jaws interacts with spread sheets, is way beyond what voice over can do 
> with numbers.  But I wish you luck.  I am a small business owner myself, and 
> run windows on my mac as a virtual machine, just so I can make my book 
> keeping a breeze, if office was accessible with the mac, mainly word and 
> excel for me, that would be the deal breaker.  I would stop using windows 
> altogether.  As for outlook, I still think it is the best mail client on the 
> PC side, but to me apple mail rules!  Of course it would be nice for my 
> calendar and contacts to be at my finger tips in apple mail like it is in 
> outlook, but it doesn't bother me to have to open another application to get 
> to them.  The interface of apple mail is so clean and smooth, it's almost 
> unheard of.  I know there is a way to get to my contact while in mail, but 
> haven't really sweated it because I rarely look at them from mail anyway.  
> But good luck, and I hope you and your staff are able to accomplish this.
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> On Feb 1, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I honestly think that the lack of Voiceover accessibility of the MS Office 
>> suite holds back many potential Mac users from switching over.  For example, 
>> I've spent much time talking with adaptive tech specialist, rehab and state 
>> agencies and, most see the Mac as a entertainment console instead of a well 
>> rounded machine that can support both ones professional and leisure 
>> computing tasks.  These agencies are all about getting visually impaired 
>> people through college, vocational training, and ultimately employed.  They 
>> look at the lack of MS Office accessibility as a non starter for those 
>> wanting training or, access to Macs.  Many blind and visually impaired 
>> people look to these institutions for their computer training and equipment. 
>>  If the Mac could be viewed as a more productivity driven computer, the 
>> better.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Gabe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks John and Sarah. I agree this access to Office is vital in my
>>> line of work with cooperating with clients we work with in our field.
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> CEO
>>> Commtech LLC
>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 1:02 pm, "J.P." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Welcome Sara,
>>>> I am glad you made it on the list. I'm excited to see what comes of this. 
>>>> To my fellow peers on this list, Sara and I have been communicating 
>>>> everyday for a week. I can assure you she is interested. Just by the 
>>>> questions she has asked. I personally wrote a note to Microsoft about the 
>>>> lack of accessibility. sara contacted me the very next day. I appreciate 
>>>> that when I explained about our lists, she took the initiative herself to 
>>>> join. I contacted the moderator last night to expedite getting her here. 
>>>> It's more genuine coming from her. Me not being the middle man.
>>> 
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