I know a number of people who are employed who have to use office because 
that's what their employers insist upon. Making MS Office would make the Mac 
such a viable solution. Freedom Scientific and GW Micro wouldn't like it, but 
we would!

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On Feb 3, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, I meant to say, most of my work "revolves" around Microsoft Office, :) 
> 
> On 3 Feb 2013, at 12:02, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> lol so it is not just me then Riccardo, I am finding the same problems with 
>> Numbers.  Shame really, as it could be quite a nice app.
>> 
>> If MS Office was accessible, I would buy it within a heart beat.  Most of my 
>> work resolves around using MS Office on Windows, but for everything else, I 
>> try to use my Mac instead, as I much prefer the Mac.
>> 
>> I love Microsoft Word, Excel, and even don't mind Outlook, I have also now 
>> started using Access.  Power point is a bit hit and miss with me.  The 
>> thought of being able to run these apps on my Mac would mean I could quite 
>> happily give my employer my Windows laptop back.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
>> On 2 Feb 2013, at 02:14, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> lucky you. haha.  I have had success with numbers but, It makes my macbook 
>>> pro extremely hot while open, I actually get worried.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> [email protected]
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there
>>>> I am having no problem using numbers with my business, but I would like to 
>>>> say a few things about Excel. I hope that when you get voiceover to work 
>>>> with Excel that it's easier to set up then it is with Excel and Jaws. When 
>>>> I was using Excel and jaws, I never could remember those commands to get 
>>>> John's to tell what the names of the columns and rows were. I'm not sure I 
>>>> can explain this so it makes sense. Whenever I had to set up a 
>>>> spreadsheet, it was a royal pain because I had to look up how to do it 
>>>> every time.
>>>> 
>>>> What I'm talking about has to do with the screen reader telling you where 
>>>> you are. In numbers, Voice overuses the top row as a header and the 
>>>> left-hand column as a header is well so that you can get it to tell you 
>>>> information as to where you are.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Gigi
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Kliphton A M <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Of course this is my own opinion.  But I think that hurdle is real high 
>>>>> on making voice over as accessible with office, as Jaws or window eyes.  
>>>>> The way that jaws interacts with spread sheets, is way beyond what voice 
>>>>> over can do with numbers.  But I wish you luck.  I am a small business 
>>>>> owner myself, and run windows on my mac as a virtual machine, just so I 
>>>>> can make my book keeping a breeze, if office was accessible with the mac, 
>>>>> mainly word and excel for me, that would be the deal breaker.  I would 
>>>>> stop using windows altogether.  As for outlook, I still think it is the 
>>>>> best mail client on the PC side, but to me apple mail rules!  Of course 
>>>>> it would be nice for my calendar and contacts to be at my finger tips in 
>>>>> apple mail like it is in outlook, but it doesn't bother me to have to 
>>>>> open another application to get to them.  The interface of apple mail is 
>>>>> so clean and smooth, it's almost unheard of.  I know there is a way to 
>>>>> get to my contact while in mail, but haven't really sweated it because I 
>>>>> rarely look at them from mail anyway.  But good luck, and I hope you and 
>>>>> your staff are able to accomplish this.
>>>>> Kliphton Senior
>>>>> (Email&iMessage) [email protected]
>>>>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
>>>>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
>>>>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
>>>>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I honestly think that the lack of Voiceover accessibility of the MS 
>>>>>> Office suite holds back many potential Mac users from switching over.  
>>>>>> For example, I've spent much time talking with adaptive tech specialist, 
>>>>>> rehab and state agencies and, most see the Mac as a entertainment 
>>>>>> console instead of a well rounded machine that can support both ones 
>>>>>> professional and leisure computing tasks.  These agencies are all about 
>>>>>> getting visually impaired people through college, vocational training, 
>>>>>> and ultimately employed.  They look at the lack of MS Office 
>>>>>> accessibility as a non starter for those wanting training or, access to 
>>>>>> Macs.  Many blind and visually impaired people look to these 
>>>>>> institutions for their computer training and equipment.  If the Mac 
>>>>>> could be viewed as a more productivity driven computer, the better.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Gabe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks John and Sarah. I agree this access to Office is vital in my
>>>>>>> line of work with cooperating with clients we work with in our field.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>>>>> CEO
>>>>>>> Commtech LLC
>>>>>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 1:02 pm, "J.P." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Welcome Sara,
>>>>>>>> I am glad you made it on the list. I'm excited to see what comes of 
>>>>>>>> this. To my fellow peers on this list, Sara and I have been 
>>>>>>>> communicating everyday for a week. I can assure you she is interested. 
>>>>>>>> Just by the questions she has asked. I personally wrote a note to 
>>>>>>>> Microsoft about the lack of accessibility. sara contacted me the very 
>>>>>>>> next day. I appreciate that when I explained about our lists, she took 
>>>>>>>> the initiative herself to join. I contacted the moderator last night 
>>>>>>>> to expedite getting her here. It's more genuine coming from her. Me 
>>>>>>>> not being the middle man.
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