Sorry, I meant to say, most of my work "revolves" around Microsoft Office, :) 

On 3 Feb 2013, at 12:02, Chris Moore <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> lol so it is not just me then Riccardo, I am finding the same problems with 
> Numbers.  Shame really, as it could be quite a nice app.
> 
> If MS Office was accessible, I would buy it within a heart beat.  Most of my 
> work resolves around using MS Office on Windows, but for everything else, I 
> try to use my Mac instead, as I much prefer the Mac.
> 
> I love Microsoft Word, Excel, and even don't mind Outlook, I have also now 
> started using Access.  Power point is a bit hit and miss with me.  The 
> thought of being able to run these apps on my Mac would mean I could quite 
> happily give my employer my Windows laptop back.
> 
> Chris 
> 
> On 2 Feb 2013, at 02:14, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> lucky you. haha.  I have had success with numbers but, It makes my macbook 
>> pro extremely hot while open, I actually get worried.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> I am having no problem using numbers with my business, but I would like to 
>>> say a few things about Excel. I hope that when you get voiceover to work 
>>> with Excel that it's easier to set up then it is with Excel and Jaws. When 
>>> I was using Excel and jaws, I never could remember those commands to get 
>>> John's to tell what the names of the columns and rows were. I'm not sure I 
>>> can explain this so it makes sense. Whenever I had to set up a spreadsheet, 
>>> it was a royal pain because I had to look up how to do it every time.
>>> 
>>> What I'm talking about has to do with the screen reader telling you where 
>>> you are. In numbers, Voice overuses the top row as a header and the 
>>> left-hand column as a header is well so that you can get it to tell you 
>>> information as to where you are.
>>> Regards
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Kliphton A M <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Of course this is my own opinion.  But I think that hurdle is real high on 
>>>> making voice over as accessible with office, as Jaws or window eyes.  The 
>>>> way that jaws interacts with spread sheets, is way beyond what voice over 
>>>> can do with numbers.  But I wish you luck.  I am a small business owner 
>>>> myself, and run windows on my mac as a virtual machine, just so I can make 
>>>> my book keeping a breeze, if office was accessible with the mac, mainly 
>>>> word and excel for me, that would be the deal breaker.  I would stop using 
>>>> windows altogether.  As for outlook, I still think it is the best mail 
>>>> client on the PC side, but to me apple mail rules!  Of course it would be 
>>>> nice for my calendar and contacts to be at my finger tips in apple mail 
>>>> like it is in outlook, but it doesn't bother me to have to open another 
>>>> application to get to them.  The interface of apple mail is so clean and 
>>>> smooth, it's almost unheard of.  I know there is a way to get to my 
>>>> contact while in mail, but haven't really sweated it because I rarely look 
>>>> at them from mail anyway.  But good luck, and I hope you and your staff 
>>>> are able to accomplish this.
>>>> Kliphton Senior
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>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I honestly think that the lack of Voiceover accessibility of the MS 
>>>>> Office suite holds back many potential Mac users from switching over.  
>>>>> For example, I've spent much time talking with adaptive tech specialist, 
>>>>> rehab and state agencies and, most see the Mac as a entertainment console 
>>>>> instead of a well rounded machine that can support both ones professional 
>>>>> and leisure computing tasks.  These agencies are all about getting 
>>>>> visually impaired people through college, vocational training, and 
>>>>> ultimately employed.  They look at the lack of MS Office accessibility as 
>>>>> a non starter for those wanting training or, access to Macs.  Many blind 
>>>>> and visually impaired people look to these institutions for their 
>>>>> computer training and equipment.  If the Mac could be viewed as a more 
>>>>> productivity driven computer, the better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Gabe Vega <theblindt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks John and Sarah. I agree this access to Office is vital in my
>>>>>> line of work with cooperating with clients we work with in our field.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>>>> CEO
>>>>>> Commtech LLC
>>>>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>>>>> Email: i...@commtechusa.net
>>>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 1:02 pm, "J.P." <jshandr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Welcome Sara,
>>>>>>> I am glad you made it on the list. I'm excited to see what comes of 
>>>>>>> this. To my fellow peers on this list, Sara and I have been 
>>>>>>> communicating everyday for a week. I can assure you she is interested. 
>>>>>>> Just by the questions she has asked. I personally wrote a note to 
>>>>>>> Microsoft about the lack of accessibility. sara contacted me the very 
>>>>>>> next day. I appreciate that when I explained about our lists, she took 
>>>>>>> the initiative herself to join. I contacted the moderator last night to 
>>>>>>> expedite getting her here. It's more genuine coming from her. Me not 
>>>>>>> being the middle man.
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