Hi,

lucky you. haha.  I have had success with numbers but, It makes my macbook pro 
extremely hot while open, I actually get worried.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi there
> I am having no problem using numbers with my business, but I would like to 
> say a few things about Excel. I hope that when you get voiceover to work with 
> Excel that it's easier to set up then it is with Excel and Jaws. When I was 
> using Excel and jaws, I never could remember those commands to get John's to 
> tell what the names of the columns and rows were. I'm not sure I can explain 
> this so it makes sense. Whenever I had to set up a spreadsheet, it was a 
> royal pain because I had to look up how to do it every time.
> 
> What I'm talking about has to do with the screen reader telling you where you 
> are. In numbers, Voice overuses the top row as a header and the left-hand 
> column as a header is well so that you can get it to tell you information as 
> to where you are.
> Regards
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Kliphton A M <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Of course this is my own opinion.  But I think that hurdle is real high on 
>> making voice over as accessible with office, as Jaws or window eyes.  The 
>> way that jaws interacts with spread sheets, is way beyond what voice over 
>> can do with numbers.  But I wish you luck.  I am a small business owner 
>> myself, and run windows on my mac as a virtual machine, just so I can make 
>> my book keeping a breeze, if office was accessible with the mac, mainly word 
>> and excel for me, that would be the deal breaker.  I would stop using 
>> windows altogether.  As for outlook, I still think it is the best mail 
>> client on the PC side, but to me apple mail rules!  Of course it would be 
>> nice for my calendar and contacts to be at my finger tips in apple mail like 
>> it is in outlook, but it doesn't bother me to have to open another 
>> application to get to them.  The interface of apple mail is so clean and 
>> smooth, it's almost unheard of.  I know there is a way to get to my contact 
>> while in mail, but haven't really sweated it because I rarely look at them 
>> from mail anyway.  But good luck, and I hope you and your staff are able to 
>> accomplish this.
>> Kliphton Senior
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>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I honestly think that the lack of Voiceover accessibility of the MS Office 
>>> suite holds back many potential Mac users from switching over.  For 
>>> example, I've spent much time talking with adaptive tech specialist, rehab 
>>> and state agencies and, most see the Mac as a entertainment console instead 
>>> of a well rounded machine that can support both ones professional and 
>>> leisure computing tasks.  These agencies are all about getting visually 
>>> impaired people through college, vocational training, and ultimately 
>>> employed.  They look at the lack of MS Office accessibility as a non 
>>> starter for those wanting training or, access to Macs.  Many blind and 
>>> visually impaired people look to these institutions for their computer 
>>> training and equipment.  If the Mac could be viewed as a more productivity 
>>> driven computer, the better.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> [email protected]
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Gabe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks John and Sarah. I agree this access to Office is vital in my
>>>> line of work with cooperating with clients we work with in our field.
>>>> 
>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>> CEO
>>>> Commtech LLC
>>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 1, 1:02 pm, "J.P." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Welcome Sara,
>>>>> I am glad you made it on the list. I'm excited to see what comes of this. 
>>>>> To my fellow peers on this list, Sara and I have been communicating 
>>>>> everyday for a week. I can assure you she is interested. Just by the 
>>>>> questions she has asked. I personally wrote a note to Microsoft about the 
>>>>> lack of accessibility. sara contacted me the very next day. I appreciate 
>>>>> that when I explained about our lists, she took the initiative herself to 
>>>>> join. I contacted the moderator last night to expedite getting her here. 
>>>>> It's more genuine coming from her. Me not being the middle man.
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