I think point 2 should stay. It is not device-specific, but rather a general 
point that many accessibility features have to be downloaded separately on 
Android in general. There is no way to say that without people knowing you are 
talking about using Android devices. Perhaps the bit about not knowing why 
anyone would choose android should be removed, but other than that I see where 
the OP is coming from. I'd sign this, but they want my full street address and 
city/state... I'm not sure I want to make that public!
On May 18, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]> wrote:

> You have very valid points on 1 and 3, but for the sake of being on topic in 
> this list.  Your argument about devices should NOT be mentioned in your 
> petition.  Here, you're preaching to the choir, but publicly, you're starting 
> a war, and your arguments are weak. We should leave that subject out.  Going 
> back to point #1, Google+ is also not very accessible on iOS devices, and 
> I've stated that many times, on Google+, by the way.  On your petition, you 
> might also add, that google's search page should be made stretch-zoomable on 
> iOS as well.  If we can strike out the Device parts, I'll gladly sign.
> 
> On May 18, 2013, at 2:18 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hey Listers, 
>> 
>> I am asking for your assistance. I have started a petition on Change .Org 
>> for Google Accessibility. I started this petition because Google declared to 
>> the world they were dedicated to Accessibility. However; their actions do 
>> not reflect this statement. Of course browsers and email are accessible. 
>> This is a requirement by law. That's where the dedication ends. I'm 
>> including some examples. 
>> 
>> The first example is Google +. If you have ever looked at the app; there are 
>> many links and buttons which aren't clearly labeled. The useability is 
>> pretty much non existent. 
>> 
>> For those who have tried an Android device; its not Google that provides the 
>> majority of accessibility. It's  3rd party developers and apps. You could 
>> spend a whole day trying to find an adequate way to get a task done. Of 
>> course; this is because you must find work arounds. I don't know why any 
>> blind individual would choose Android at this point. Its not like Apple 
>> software which just works out of the box. 
>> 
>> The last example is the new Hangouts app. It falls into the same category as 
>> Google +. Links and buttons aren't clearly labeled. The useability again is 
>> lacking. 
>> 
>> Please take a moment to sign the petition. Tell Google to live up to the 
>> promise of accessibility in their products. More importantly; tell them the 
>> disabled community is not a second -class society. 
>> Thank you for your help! 
>> Google Petition: 
>> http://www.change.org/petitions/google-include-accessibility-in-all-products-2?share_id=GhGKYCjqjF&utm_campaign=twitter_link_action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
>> 
>> Regards, JP
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