At least there is accessibility on android, and you don't have to pay $1200 to receive accessibility on android. I think number two should be removed personally, unless you plan to go soon Microsoft, Gateway, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, etc. because they don't include accessibility features in their operating system that is preinstalled. If someone asked me which mobile phone platform I would suggest for a blind or visually impaired users, my response would be "if you wanted to work, right out-of-the-box choose iOS. If you want something to tinker with, choosing android". They both have accessibility, and, I think a lot of blind or visually impaired individuals get frustrated with android, because it is a learning curve. So, again I personally think number two is inappropriate for this particular situation. In addition, there are alternatives to Google hangout, why is Google responsible for being 100% accessible? When other companies are not 100% accessible, and 95% of the features can be accessed. And again, as obvious that Google hangouts isn't 100% accessible on iOS, it is apparent that iOS in that sense is no better than android because from what I remember, Google plus was actually usable on android.
Need a ripple code? Text me, 406-212-8503 visit startmyripple.com Http://empoweringtheblind.com On May 18, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > I think point 2 should stay. It is not device-specific, but rather a general > point that many accessibility features have to be downloaded separately on > Android in general. There is no way to say that without people knowing you > are talking about using Android devices. Perhaps the bit about not knowing > why anyone would choose android should be removed, but other than that I see > where the OP is coming from. I'd sign this, but they want my full street > address and city/state... I'm not sure I want to make that public! > On May 18, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You have very valid points on 1 and 3, but for the sake of being on topic in >> this list. Your argument about devices should NOT be mentioned in your >> petition. Here, you're preaching to the choir, but publicly, you're >> starting a war, and your arguments are weak. We should leave that subject >> out. Going back to point #1, Google+ is also not very accessible on iOS >> devices, and I've stated that many times, on Google+, by the way. On your >> petition, you might also add, that google's search page should be made >> stretch-zoomable on iOS as well. If we can strike out the Device parts, >> I'll gladly sign. >> >> On May 18, 2013, at 2:18 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey Listers, >>> >>> I am asking for your assistance. I have started a petition on Change .Org >>> for Google Accessibility. I started this petition because Google declared >>> to the world they were dedicated to Accessibility. However; their actions >>> do not reflect this statement. Of course browsers and email are accessible. >>> This is a requirement by law. That's where the dedication ends. I'm >>> including some examples. >>> >>> The first example is Google +. If you have ever looked at the app; there >>> are many links and buttons which aren't clearly labeled. The useability is >>> pretty much non existent. >>> >>> For those who have tried an Android device; its not Google that provides >>> the majority of accessibility. It's 3rd party developers and apps. You >>> could spend a whole day trying to find an adequate way to get a task done. >>> Of course; this is because you must find work arounds. I don't know why any >>> blind individual would choose Android at this point. Its not like Apple >>> software which just works out of the box. >>> >>> The last example is the new Hangouts app. It falls into the same category >>> as Google +. Links and buttons aren't clearly labeled. The useability again >>> is lacking. >>> >>> Please take a moment to sign the petition. Tell Google to live up to the >>> promise of accessibility in their products. More importantly; tell them the >>> disabled community is not a second -class society. >>> Thank you for your help! >>> Google Petition: >>> http://www.change.org/petitions/google-include-accessibility-in-all-products-2?share_id=GhGKYCjqjF&utm_campaign=twitter_link_action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition >>> >>> Regards, JP >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Louie P. 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