Just to add to this, Google+ is accessible in Windows. I haven't tried using it on my Mac, but if it isn't accessible on the Mac, then it's a Google-Voiceover issue. Donna On May 18, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Michael Babcock <[email protected]> wrote:
> At least there is accessibility on android, and you don't have to pay $1200 > to receive accessibility on android. I think number two should be removed > personally, unless you plan to go soon Microsoft, Gateway, Dell, > Hewlett-Packard, etc. because they don't include accessibility features in > their operating system that is preinstalled. If someone asked me which mobile > phone platform I would suggest for a blind or visually impaired users, my > response would be "if you wanted to work, right out-of-the-box choose iOS. If > you want something to tinker with, choosing android". They both have > accessibility, and, I think a lot of blind or visually impaired individuals > get frustrated with android, because it is a learning curve. So, again I > personally think number two is inappropriate for this particular situation. > In addition, there are alternatives to Google hangout, why is Google > responsible for being 100% accessible? When other companies are not 100% > accessible, and 95% of the features can be accessed. And again, as obvious > that Google hangouts isn't 100% accessible on iOS, it is apparent that iOS in > that sense is no better than android because from what I remember, Google > plus was actually usable on android. > > Need a ripple code? Text me, 406-212-8503 visit startmyripple.com > Http://empoweringtheblind.com > > > On May 18, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think point 2 should stay. It is not device-specific, but rather a general >> point that many accessibility features have to be downloaded separately on >> Android in general. There is no way to say that without people knowing you >> are talking about using Android devices. Perhaps the bit about not knowing >> why anyone would choose android should be removed, but other than that I see >> where the OP is coming from. I'd sign this, but they want my full street >> address and city/state... I'm not sure I want to make that public! >> On May 18, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You have very valid points on 1 and 3, but for the sake of being on topic >>> in this list. Your argument about devices should NOT be mentioned in your >>> petition. Here, you're preaching to the choir, but publicly, you're >>> starting a war, and your arguments are weak. We should leave that subject >>> out. Going back to point #1, Google+ is also not very accessible on iOS >>> devices, and I've stated that many times, on Google+, by the way. On your >>> petition, you might also add, that google's search page should be made >>> stretch-zoomable on iOS as well. If we can strike out the Device parts, >>> I'll gladly sign. >>> >>> On May 18, 2013, at 2:18 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hey Listers, >>>> >>>> I am asking for your assistance. I have started a petition on Change .Org >>>> for Google Accessibility. I started this petition because Google declared >>>> to the world they were dedicated to Accessibility. However; their actions >>>> do not reflect this statement. Of course browsers and email are >>>> accessible. This is a requirement by law. That's where the dedication >>>> ends. I'm including some examples. >>>> >>>> The first example is Google +. If you have ever looked at the app; there >>>> are many links and buttons which aren't clearly labeled. The useability is >>>> pretty much non existent. >>>> >>>> For those who have tried an Android device; its not Google that provides >>>> the majority of accessibility. It's 3rd party developers and apps. You >>>> could spend a whole day trying to find an adequate way to get a task done. >>>> Of course; this is because you must find work arounds. I don't know why >>>> any blind individual would choose Android at this point. Its not like >>>> Apple software which just works out of the box. >>>> >>>> The last example is the new Hangouts app. It falls into the same category >>>> as Google +. Links and buttons aren't clearly labeled. The useability >>>> again is lacking. >>>> >>>> Please take a moment to sign the petition. Tell Google to live up to the >>>> promise of accessibility in their products. More importantly; tell them >>>> the disabled community is not a second -class society. >>>> Thank you for your help! >>>> Google Petition: >>>> http://www.change.org/petitions/google-include-accessibility-in-all-products-2?share_id=GhGKYCjqjF&utm_campaign=twitter_link_action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition >>>> >>>> Regards, JP >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Louie P. 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