I must entirely agree and I have an example to site. I used to use a Braille translation program that included a word processor As a result, I didn't know how to use main steam programs because I wasn't informed about main stream programs. On 2013-06-07, at 9:50 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
> But preference in this case doesn't justify the potential loss for the rest > of us who don't want to take the easy way out. also, I don't buy the > preference argument in situations like this. If all my life everyone has > always waited on me and I've never been expected to learn to do anything for > myself, of course my preference will be that that would continue. But it > certainly isn't in my best interest to live my life that way, because at some > point, someone isn't going to do everything for me and if I haven't developed > the skills I need, I won't be equipped to stand on my own two feet when the > time comes. > Cheers, > Donna > On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:40 AM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, > Commtech LLC" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is also a preference thing. For example, I was researching other >> carriers yesterday, and a particular carrier Lightyear wireless kept popping >> up. I honestly don't even know what they are, it looks like some pyramid >> scheme program, however, I do know that there are probably some people out >> there because again it kept coming up. So, it's up to the individual who >> wants to use it, and I do think it would be a. Interesting program to >> monitor, and see how well it does. I also do like the fact that it states >> that 2% of the voice plans will go to organizations that support the blind, >> so it would be interesting to see which organizations those are, and if >> those organizations are behind this network! >> AT&T offers a disability number, I don't have it on hand. I am pretty sure >> that Verizon does as well, and I know Sprint customer service individuals >> have documentation about accessibility. So, three of the four major carriers >> I am pretty sure have access to accessibility information. It is up to the >> customer service representative whether or not they want to actually >> research the questions that a blind or visually impaired individual might >> have. This particular carrier, should consider marketing the fact that they >> have customer service individuals trained in the knowledge of accessibility >> options on mobile devices, and that way there not solely advertising to the >> blind or visually impaired or disabled market. Just my two cents honestly! >> Sorry if this upsets anyone. >> Michael >> >> Michael Babcock >> Marketing and Sales Manager >> Commtech LLC >> Web: http://commtechusa.net >> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704 >> Fax: (480) 535-7649 >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we >>> wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could >>> still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help, >>> without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be set >>> aside for us. In my experience, Apple has always been able to find someone >>> who knew about VoiceOver enough to help, or the rep researched it and got >>> back to me. I would be willing to stake money that sighted people have >>> called Apple or other companies, and have spoken to reps who needed to do >>> some research on a particular issue. Few reps are familiar with every >>> possible bug, every technical glitch, tip, shortcut, or troubleshooting >>> strategy. >>> Christine >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, >>> Commtech LLC" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it >>>> from this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because >>>> somehow you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, >>>> if we dialed 611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our >>>> iOS device again, they might ask us what we are talking about, or transfer >>>> us around to a myriad of different individuals who still don't know what >>>> we're talking about. However, if a blind person is able to pick up his >>>> phone, dial 611, and receive assistive technology assistance, this might >>>> be more beneficial to him. In addition, there are several smaller carriers >>>> out there, especially running on the T-Mobile network, like this one >>>> appears to do. Just something to think about, imagine being able to call >>>> customer service, and getting assistance using jaws to read that bill, or >>>> voiceover, on your new iPhone especially if you're brand-new customer. >>>> >>>> Michael Babcock >>>> Marketing and Sales Manager >>>> Commtech LLC >>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net >>>> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704 >>>> Fax: (480) 535-7649 >>>> >>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is >>>>> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones. >>>>> Original message: >>>>>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems >>>>>> pretty pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range >>>>>> of experiences available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on >>>>>> earth do we need a special phone carrier? 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