In the spirit of obviously piling on, I agree with you Kerri.  Peas in a pod 
ay;  or huh?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Kerri <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've decided to hime in as well. I honestly can't see the point of a carrier 
> for the blind. Firstly, it would go out of business with great rapidity due 
> to the fact that the vlid population is small. Seconly, should we be more 
> alienated than we already are? No, I say.
> On 2013-06-07, at 9:51 AM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I decided to read this intire thread before responding.  Frankly, I'm fullly 
>> with Christine on this one for sure.  Special carrier for the blind?  Oh 
>> please!!  I hardly think that's necessary at all.  Seperate ain't equal.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we 
>>> wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could 
>>> still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help, 
>>> without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be set 
>>> aside for us.  In my experience, Apple has always been able to find someone 
>>> who knew about VoiceOver enough to help, or the rep researched it and got 
>>> back to me. I would be willing to stake money that sighted people have 
>>> called Apple or other companies, and have spoken to reps who needed to do 
>>> some research on a particular issue.  Few reps are familiar with every 
>>> possible bug, every technical glitch, tip, shortcut, or troubleshooting 
>>> strategy. 
>>> Christine
>>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, 
>>> Commtech LLC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it 
>>>> from this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because 
>>>> somehow you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, 
>>>> if we dialed 611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our 
>>>> iOS device again, they might ask us what we are talking about, or transfer 
>>>> us around to a myriad of different individuals who still don't know what 
>>>> we're talking about. However, if a blind person is able to pick up his 
>>>> phone, dial 611, and receive assistive technology assistance, this might 
>>>> be more beneficial to him. In addition, there are several smaller carriers 
>>>> out there, especially running on the T-Mobile network, like this one 
>>>> appears to do. Just something to think about, imagine being able to call 
>>>> customer service, and getting assistance using jaws to read that bill, or 
>>>> voiceover, on your new iPhone especially if you're brand-new customer.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Babcock
>>>> Marketing and Sales Manager
>>>> Commtech LLC
>>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>>> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
>>>> Fax: (480) 535-7649
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is 
>>>>> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems 
>>>>>> pretty pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range 
>>>>>> of experiences  available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on 
>>>>>> earth do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, 
>>>>>> rather than expecting to be included in available services.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
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