Hi

I read about one person that decided to run Mountain Lion in Virtual Machine. 
First of all for the option to run Mail in Mountain Lion and cmd + tab back to 
Maverick. He was waiting for theese gmail bugs to be fixed. 

Many sighted people have problems with gmail in Maverick too and reports theese 
bugs to Apple.  

Take care

29. okt. 2013 kl. 04:13 skrev Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com>:

> So, does this mean you cannot turn off preview in standard mode with 
> Mavericks Mail now?
> 
> If this is the case, then another reason for me to stay back on Mountain Lion.
> 
> On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> hey,
>> i love modern view it stops a lot of the VO chatter so i think i will stay 
>> with it myself.
>> On 28 Oct 2013, at 2:56 am, Buddy Brannan <bu...@brannan.name> wrote:
>> 
>>> While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If you 
>>> close your message view window after making the change to eliminate the 
>>> preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is back. 
>>> At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only way to 
>>> make the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, because 
>>> I’ve kinda gotten to like modern view.
>>> --
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>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for 
>>>> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You 
>>>> can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but 
>>>> don’t interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal 
>>>> splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the 
>>>> zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and 
>>>> hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus 
>>>> changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the period/delete key 
>>>> on the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be sure the horizontal 
>>>> splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, you can switch back to 
>>>> modern view in Mail preferences if you wish.
>>>> 
>>>> HtH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton ------- <kliphton....@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn.  How do you place the mouse 
>>>>> pointer where you want it.  Also,  when you say you push numpad period, 
>>>>> what key do you push on the numpad?  Or maybe I am miss understanding?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kliphton
>>>>> (iMessage&Email) kliphton....@outlook.com
>>>>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" 
>>>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the 
>>>>> accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they 
>>>>> actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then 
>>>>> move to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on 
>>>>> the horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this 
>>>>> locks the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the 
>>>>> mouse to the right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the 
>>>>> mouse key with numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t 
>>>>> track straight with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way 
>>>>> ensures that I do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HtH,
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>>>>> <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Teresa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do you disable the preview pane?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than
>>>>>> five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without
>>>>>> having to switch to it. pretty cool. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
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