hey,
i love modern view it stops a lot of the VO chatter so i think i will stay with 
it myself.
On 28 Oct 2013, at 2:56 am, Buddy Brannan <bu...@brannan.name> wrote:

> While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If you 
> close your message view window after making the change to eliminate the 
> preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is back. 
> At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only way to make 
> the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, because I’ve 
> kinda gotten to like modern view.
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> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for 
>> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You 
>> can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but don’t 
>> interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal 
>> splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the 
>> zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and 
>> hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus 
>> changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the period/delete key on 
>> the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be sure the horizontal 
>> splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, you can switch back to 
>> modern view in Mail preferences if you wish.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton ------- <kliphton....@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn.  How do you place the mouse pointer 
>>> where you want it.  Also,  when you say you push numpad period, what key do 
>>> you push on the numpad?  Or maybe I am miss understanding?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kliphton
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>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the 
>>> accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they 
>>> actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then move 
>>> to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on the 
>>> horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this locks 
>>> the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the mouse to 
>>> the right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the mouse key 
>>> with numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t track 
>>> straight with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way ensures 
>>> that I do.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>>> <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> How do you disable the preview pane?
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
>>>> 
>>>> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and 
>>>> with
>>>> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than
>>>> five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without
>>>> having to switch to it. pretty cool. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
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