I got it turned off permanently, but it takes some intuitive action with whatever mouse manipulation is your preferred one. I use mouse keys, because they’re independent of VO, and I can be assured that I track straight.
Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > No, this is not the case. The issue is that, at least so far, if Preview > Pane is active, you’ll need to turn it off while in Classic View and it will > be applied to both views. Some folks here have had problems with it sticking > but I have not. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So, does this mean you cannot turn off preview in standard mode with >> Mavericks Mail now? >> >> If this is the case, then another reason for me to stay back on Mountain >> Lion. >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Michael Marshall <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> hey, >>> i love modern view it stops a lot of the VO chatter so i think i will stay >>> with it myself. >>> On 28 Oct 2013, at 2:56 am, Buddy Brannan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If >>>> you close your message view window after making the change to eliminate >>>> the preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is >>>> back. At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only >>>> way to make the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, >>>> because I’ve kinda gotten to like modern view. >>>> -- >>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for >>>>> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You >>>>> can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but >>>>> don’t interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal >>>>> splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the >>>>> zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and >>>>> hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus >>>>> changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the period/delete key >>>>> on the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be sure the >>>>> horizontal splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, you can >>>>> switch back to modern view in Mail preferences if you wish. >>>>> >>>>> HtH, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton ------- <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse >>>>>> pointer where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, >>>>>> what key do you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kliphton >>>>>> (iMessage&Email) [email protected] >>>>>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in >>>>>> the accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, >>>>>> they actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, >>>>>> then move to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer >>>>>> on the horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and >>>>>> this locks the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which >>>>>> moves the mouse to the right. When I hear VO say something different, I >>>>>> release the mouse key with numpad period. I like using this method, >>>>>> because I don’t track straight with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, >>>>>> but this way ensures that I do. >>>>>> >>>>>> HtH, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Teresa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you disable the preview pane? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Debbie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> five lines. 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