Exactly, and that's why I usually use vo-a as soon as the message opens. In 
Mavericks, this won't work since the message usually takes so long to load. The 
clicks don't anny me, and I appreciate them when reading text where something 
like an embedded address is detected. It is more that there are a bunch of 
extra clicks before the message is even read, and that reading said message 
takes so long.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem for me with pressing Return on a message instead of VO-J, is that 
> the message subject and folder you're in is spoken first before the message 
> itself. That adds up to a huge amount of extra verbiage when you read 
> hundreds of messages a day.
> Jonathan Mosen
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> On 18/12/2013, at 2:26 am, alia robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in 
>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when 
>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages 
>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a 
>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. 
>> 
>> Alia
>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, it 
>>> happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added.
>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you 
>>> wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w.
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