Hi,

I am using a 2012 retina MacBook Pro. When I am on the message list in mail and 
press vo+j, the body of the message is read immediately by VoiceOver. I do not 
experience any delay at all.

Robert Carter


On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly, and that's why I usually use vo-a as soon as the message opens. In 
> Mavericks, this won't work since the message usually takes so long to load. 
> The clicks don't anny me, and I appreciate them when reading text where 
> something like an embedded address is detected. It is more that there are a 
> bunch of extra clicks before the message is even read, and that reading said 
> message takes so long.
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
>> The problem for me with pressing Return on a message instead of VO-J, is 
>> that the message subject and folder you're in is spoken first before the 
>> message itself. That adds up to a huge amount of extra verbiage when you 
>> read hundreds of messages a day.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>> On 18/12/2013, at 2:26 am, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in 
>>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when 
>>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages 
>>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a 
>>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. 
>>> 
>>> Alia
>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, 
>>>> it happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added.
>>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you 
>>>> wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w.
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> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
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