Good Day:
If you are referring to the recovery mode that you access by holding
down command-r as you power on the computer, it is fully accessible with
VoiceOver. I don’t know about the rest of the list, but I am not experiencing
the problems you are having, and I did not do a clean install.
HTH:
Henry
Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.
Sherlock Holmes
On Jan 7, 2014, at 14:06, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot to say. Yes, I tried that a couple weeks a go. A bunch of
> items were repaired, but it fixed nothing. My next step is to try something I
> read online and do a repair while in recover mode. I'm reluctant to try that
> since I can't be sure this mode is accessible, and I seem to recall it is
> not, but I can't think of much else. So, no one else here is having these
> problems under mavericks? No delays open ing apps or switching windows? No
> delays loading emails when pressing enter? No audio stuttering?
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Henry D. Hollithron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Good Day:
>>
>> Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it
>> seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. Of
>> course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you are
>> reluctant to go that route.
>>
>> HTH:
>> Henry
>> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the
>> last.
>> Sherlock Holmes
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no
>>> difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought
>>> any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows
>>> no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see.
>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup
>>>> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or
>>>> disk activity levels?
>>>>
>>>> CB
>>>>
>>>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to
>>>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under
>>>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few
>>>>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels
>>>>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or
>>>>> arrowing around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching
>>>>> windows, almost makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but
>>>>> weever I boot into Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with
>>>>> no delays, instead of the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even
>>>>> previous OS10 versions had that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows
>>>>> screen reader with a large voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks seems
>>>>> to have intensified those problems.
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really
>>>>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset
>>>>>> do anything?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams
>>>>>>> of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and
>>>>>>> got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run
>>>>>>> out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under
>>>>>>> Mountain Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the
>>>>>>> lower memory usage and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a
>>>>>>> 2007 Mini running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running
>>>>>>> Mavericks, we have a serious problem.
>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run
>>>>>>>> out of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have 8GB
>>>>>>>> but it was kinda tight when I had 4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at
>>>>>>>>> all after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to
>>>>>>>>> respond faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to
>>>>>>>>> avoid a complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my
>>>>>>>>> apps and settings) is fine with me.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it
>>>>>>>>>> down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in,
>>>>>>>>>> waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and
>>>>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't
>>>>>>>>>>> gone ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> resetting the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least.
>>>>>>>>>>> This SMC reset does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini
>>>>>>>>>>> so can't remove the battery or anything.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check,
>>>>>>>>>>>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What
>>>>>>>>>>>> are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of little details semi-permanently. Things related to which
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings
>>>>>>>>>>>> and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start
>>>>>>>>>>>> behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive
>>>>>>>>>>>> which doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent
>>>>>>>>>>>> puts things back to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored on PRAM
>>>>>>>>>>>> varies between Mac models. There is also the SMC for System
>>>>>>>>>>>> Management Controller on Intel Macs. The SMC controls things like
>>>>>>>>>>>> power, fans and system performance so you might want to try
>>>>>>>>>>>> resetting that as well. On a laptop you'll have to unplug it, pull
>>>>>>>>>>>> the battery and hold down the power button for 5 seconds to drain
>>>>>>>>>>>> the last bit of juice. That resets the SMC to factory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then hold down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of doing this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one might actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or four -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then let off the keys to allow a normal startup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My system has slowed down and I think this might help. I tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to search the archives, but could not do so as I didn't find a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link in the e-mail message to do so as is the case with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone list. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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