Hello all, I’d like to chime in. I have a 2012 macbook Pro and I did a upgrade to Maverick too. I can’t afford to do a clean install right now since I don’t have a backup hdd right now.
But every once a while I get my Mac run very very slowly, and switching apps takes forever. Sometimes a reboot does not work. Somestimes my Mac act like it have a mind of it’s own.For one, Google Chrome, and a fully updated Libre Office, does not stay open for long. It will say it have experienced an error. So maybe mine needs a reinstall soon. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 7, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, thanks, I'll give recovery mode a shot then. Anything to not do a clean > install... > On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Henry D. Hollithron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good Day: >> >> If you are referring to the recovery mode that you access by holding >> down command-r as you power on the computer, it is fully accessible with >> VoiceOver. I don’t know about the rest of the list, but I am not >> experiencing the problems you are having, and I did not do a clean install. >> >> HTH: >> Henry >> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the >> last. >> Sherlock Holmes >> >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 14:06, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, I forgot to say. Yes, I tried that a couple weeks a go. A bunch of >>> items were repaired, but it fixed nothing. My next step is to try something >>> I read online and do a repair while in recover mode. I'm reluctant to try >>> that since I can't be sure this mode is accessible, and I seem to recall it >>> is not, but I can't think of much else. So, no one else here is having >>> these problems under mavericks? No delays open ing apps or switching >>> windows? No delays loading emails when pressing enter? No audio stuttering? >>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Henry D. Hollithron <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good Day: >>>> >>>> Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it >>>> seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. >>>> Of course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you >>>> are reluctant to go that route. >>>> >>>> HTH: >>>> Henry >>>> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the >>>> last. >>>> Sherlock Holmes >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made >>>>> no difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I >>>>> thought any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity >>>>> Monitor shows no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see. >>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine >>>>>> backup running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU >>>>>> load or disk activity levels? >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to >>>>>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under >>>>>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a >>>>>>> few seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just >>>>>>> feels sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text >>>>>>> or arrowing around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching >>>>>>> windows, almost makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, >>>>>>> but weever I boot into Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to >>>>>>> with no delays, instead of the small to large delays under Mavericks. >>>>>>> Even previous OS10 versions had that bit of lag, sort of like using a >>>>>>> Windows screen reader with a large voice, but worse in some ways. >>>>>>> Mavericks seems to have intensified those problems. >>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really >>>>>>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC >>>>>>>> reset do anything? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed >>>>>>>>> dreams of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten >>>>>>>>> months ago and got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is >>>>>>>>> extraordinary! I never run out now, though, as I said, performance is >>>>>>>>> worse now than under Mountain Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature >>>>>>>>> of Mavericks was the lower memory usage and better performance. >>>>>>>>> Whatever Apple says, when a 2007 Mini running Lion feels way snappier >>>>>>>>> than my 2011 Mini running Mavericks, we have a serious problem. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run >>>>>>>>>> out of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have >>>>>>>>>> 8GB but it was kinda tight when I had 4. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at >>>>>>>>>>> all after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to >>>>>>>>>>> respond faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to >>>>>>>>>>> avoid a complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all >>>>>>>>>>> my apps and settings) is fine with me. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it >>>>>>>>>>>> down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back >>>>>>>>>>>> in, waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't >>>>>>>>>>>>> gone ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>> resetting the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This SMC reset does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini >>>>>>>>>>>>> so can't remove the battery or anything. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hold a lot of little details semi-permanently. Things related to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> start behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive which doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resent puts things back to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on PRAM varies between Mac models. There is also the SMC for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> System Management Controller on Intel Macs. The SMC controls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things like power, fans and system performance so you might want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to try resetting that as well. On a laptop you'll have to unplug >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, pull the battery and hold down the power button for 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds to drain the last bit of juice. That resets the SMC to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> factory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hold down the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this? I've heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might actually need to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> four - and then let off the keys to allow a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac? My system has slowed down and I think this might help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to search the archives, but could not do so as I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't find a link in the e-mail message to do so as is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case with the iPhone list. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this 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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email 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