Okay, thanks, I'll give recovery mode a shot then. Anything to not do a clean install... On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Henry D. Hollithron <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good Day: > > If you are referring to the recovery mode that you access by holding > down command-r as you power on the computer, it is fully accessible with > VoiceOver. I don’t know about the rest of the list, but I am not experiencing > the problems you are having, and I did not do a clean install. > > HTH: > Henry > Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the > last. > Sherlock Holmes > > On Jan 7, 2014, at 14:06, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry, I forgot to say. Yes, I tried that a couple weeks a go. A bunch of >> items were repaired, but it fixed nothing. My next step is to try something >> I read online and do a repair while in recover mode. I'm reluctant to try >> that since I can't be sure this mode is accessible, and I seem to recall it >> is not, but I can't think of much else. So, no one else here is having these >> problems under mavericks? No delays open ing apps or switching windows? No >> delays loading emails when pressing enter? No audio stuttering? >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Henry D. Hollithron <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Good Day: >>> >>> Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it >>> seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. >>> Of course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you >>> are reluctant to go that route. >>> >>> HTH: >>> Henry >>> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the >>> last. >>> Sherlock Holmes >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no >>>> difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I >>>> thought any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity >>>> Monitor shows no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see. >>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup >>>>> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or >>>>> disk activity levels? >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to >>>>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under >>>>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few >>>>>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels >>>>>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or >>>>>> arrowing around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching >>>>>> windows, almost makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but >>>>>> weever I boot into Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with >>>>>> no delays, instead of the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even >>>>>> previous OS10 versions had that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows >>>>>> screen reader with a large voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks >>>>>> seems to have intensified those problems. >>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really >>>>>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC >>>>>>> reset do anything? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed >>>>>>>> dreams of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months >>>>>>>> ago and got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I >>>>>>>> never run out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than >>>>>>>> under Mountain Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks >>>>>>>> was the lower memory usage and better performance. Whatever Apple >>>>>>>> says, when a 2007 Mini running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 >>>>>>>> Mini running Mavericks, we have a serious problem. >>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run >>>>>>>>> out of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have >>>>>>>>> 8GB but it was kinda tight when I had 4. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at >>>>>>>>>> all after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to >>>>>>>>>> respond faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to >>>>>>>>>> avoid a complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my >>>>>>>>>> apps and settings) is fine with me. >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it >>>>>>>>>>> down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in, >>>>>>>>>>> waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and >>>>>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't >>>>>>>>>>>> gone ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe >>>>>>>>>>>> resetting the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. >>>>>>>>>>>> This SMC reset does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini >>>>>>>>>>>> so can't remove the battery or anything. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, >>>>>>>>>>>>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What >>>>>>>>>>>>> are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of little details semi-permanently. Things related to which >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings >>>>>>>>>>>>> and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start >>>>>>>>>>>>> behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive >>>>>>>>>>>>> which doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent >>>>>>>>>>>>> puts things back to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored on PRAM >>>>>>>>>>>>> varies between Mac models. There is also the SMC for System >>>>>>>>>>>>> Management Controller on Intel Macs. The SMC controls things like >>>>>>>>>>>>> power, fans and system performance so you might want to try >>>>>>>>>>>>> resetting that as well. On a laptop you'll have to unplug it, >>>>>>>>>>>>> pull the battery and hold down the power button for 5 seconds to >>>>>>>>>>>>> drain the last bit of juice. That resets the SMC to factory. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then hold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this? I've heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one might >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually need to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> four - and then let off the keys to allow a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My system has slowed down and I think this might help. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to search the archives, but could not do so as I didn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a link in the e-mail message to do so as is the case with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone list. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are 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