Hi Alex, I wouldn’t say that you’re totally alone with your issues but, specifically, I’m not having any of the concerns you’re noting on either my MBP, my iMac nor other units I’ve upgraded to Mavericks at work.
Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, I forgot to say. Yes, I tried that a couple weeks a go. A bunch of > items were repaired, but it fixed nothing. My next step is to try something I > read online and do a repair while in recover mode. I'm reluctant to try that > since I can't be sure this mode is accessible, and I seem to recall it is > not, but I can't think of much else. So, no one else here is having these > problems under mavericks? No delays open ing apps or switching windows? No > delays loading emails when pressing enter? No audio stuttering? > On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Henry D. Hollithron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good Day: >> >> Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it >> seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. Of >> course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you are >> reluctant to go that route. >> >> HTH: >> Henry >> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the >> last. >> Sherlock Holmes >> >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no >>> difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought >>> any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows >>> no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see. >>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup >>>> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or >>>> disk activity levels? >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to >>>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under >>>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few >>>>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels >>>>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or >>>>> arrowing around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching >>>>> windows, almost makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but >>>>> weever I boot into Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with >>>>> no delays, instead of the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even >>>>> previous OS10 versions had that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows >>>>> screen reader with a large voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks seems >>>>> to have intensified those problems. >>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really >>>>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset >>>>>> do anything? >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams >>>>>>> of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and >>>>>>> got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run >>>>>>> out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under >>>>>>> Mountain Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the >>>>>>> lower memory usage and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a >>>>>>> 2007 Mini running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running >>>>>>> Mavericks, we have a serious problem. >>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run >>>>>>>> out of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have 8GB >>>>>>>> but it was kinda tight when I had 4. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at >>>>>>>>> all after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to >>>>>>>>> respond faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to >>>>>>>>> avoid a complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my >>>>>>>>> apps and settings) is fine with me. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it >>>>>>>>>> down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in, >>>>>>>>>> waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and >>>>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't >>>>>>>>>>> gone ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe >>>>>>>>>>> resetting the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. >>>>>>>>>>> This SMC reset does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini >>>>>>>>>>> so can't remove the battery or anything. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, >>>>>>>>>>>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What >>>>>>>>>>>> are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a >>>>>>>>>>>> lot of little details semi-permanently. Things related to which >>>>>>>>>>>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings >>>>>>>>>>>> and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start >>>>>>>>>>>> behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive >>>>>>>>>>>> which doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent >>>>>>>>>>>> puts things back to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored on PRAM >>>>>>>>>>>> varies between Mac models. There is also the SMC for System >>>>>>>>>>>> Management Controller on Intel Macs. The SMC controls things like >>>>>>>>>>>> power, fans and system performance so you might want to try >>>>>>>>>>>> resetting that as well. On a laptop you'll have to unplug it, pull >>>>>>>>>>>> the battery and hold down the power button for 5 seconds to drain >>>>>>>>>>>> the last bit of juice. That resets the SMC to factory. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so will >>>>>>>>>>>>> this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then hold down >>>>>>>>>>>>> the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of doing this? >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one might actually >>>>>>>>>>>>> need to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or four - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then let off the keys to allow a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My system has slowed down and I think this might help. I tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to search the archives, but could not do so as I didn't find a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link in the e-mail message to do so as is the case with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone list. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> ￣\_(ツ)_/￣ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" 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