On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Marius Vollmer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "ext Niels Breet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > We need to come up with an official list and don't allow new categories to
> > be created unless the community feels it is needed.
>
> I am sure you notice the conflict here: whatever list you come up with
> will be unsuitable for someone. You want strict policy enforcement,
> based on community 'feelings'. How can that work?
Can it be any worse than the mess we're in now? Having said that,
perhaps the MOTU-style proposal of gatekeepers doing QA checks could
help here. Deviation is permitted, if it gets through a gatekeeper:
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2008-January/013889.html
> One approach in a situation where consensus is clearly beneficial is to
> make a first shot at a concrete policy that everybody is supposed to
> follow, but make it possible to deviate from that policy in practice.
That's what we've got now! There's a pre-defined list of categories
and a note saying "don't deviate from these if you don't want to".
It's not worked. Apps from Nokia's own commercial partners, and
high-visibility apps like Canola either think the guidelines don't
apply to them; the guidelines don't cover the cases they have to
support or aren't aware of them.
> That way, you end up with the people willing to put in the effort to be
> the ones who define the policy.
Yeah, agreed. This goes back to the gatekeepers suggestion.
> For example, "Pidgin" might want a category of
> its own since it has many related packages that would otherwise be
> scattered all over the place. We could maybe improve the Application
> manager UI to make this a non-issue by grouping related packages in
> other ways (say, installing Pidgin gives a list with checkboxes where
> you can select additional components, based on the Recommends and
> Suggests fields of a package).
Personally, I can only use "All" to find stuff, because of the bad
categorisation; but this view is effectively spammed by large numbers
of plugins for Canola, Pidgin, gcompris etc.
Hierarchy is probably necessary here, with the Pidgin plugins being in
Communications/Pidgin etc.
Cheers,
Andrew
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