On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:09:16 +1000 (EST) Mark Livingstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Richard Welty > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > RW> i might be persuaded to start taking a look at the newsreader side, > given > RW> that noone else is. don't expect rapid progress or anything like > that. > I would be willing to turn on some newsgroups (astually already did - > one from > my ISP) and start including News in my regular testing procedures. i'd suggest not doing this right away. 1) it's going to take me a while to get oriented and start chipping away at things (and i do propose to start by chipping away.) 2) what i will be doing is subscribing to one medium volume technical group (i've been using comp.lang.tcl for my experiments) and work at it until i find reading it tolerable. when i get to that point, it'll probably be time to start some regular QA. > Not that I have noticed. I haven't used News since I swapped to Linux > but used > is in conjunction with Hamster news/mail server with Win2K. > My initial thoughts are there are two major initial glaring problems: > > a. It treats NNTP servers like IMAP server (ie it is basically an online > news > reader not offline) absolutely. this was the second thing that jumped out at me. > b. It does not have a .newsrc use functionality. the third thing i noticed > The "create a folder for every group" concept is not going to scale to > news > reading. this was the first thing that jumped out at me. > I want to hit subscribe and have everything else done for me > like > most other news programs do. ATM I use Mozilla and have used OE (ugh) > and Pan > and various others over the years. likely we'll want a news version of the explorer pane on the left side that replaces the mail folder pane. this is speculative right now, there's a lot to think about. i like some of the GUI for the left side bookmarks pane in version 7.x of Opera, and maybe it should be looked at as an example for possible futures for mahogany. > I would also suggest we examine the only standard for functionality I > have > been able to find for News readers ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ ) > and let > that guide us as we proceed. What do you reckon? Does this seem sound as > a > guideline? i'll have to take a look at it. i don't think i've seen that doc before. > I must also get a copy of the RFC and see what it says. enjoy. it's been a while since i read it, but NNTP is a fairly straightforward protocol as i recall. i haven't fooled around with newsreader code since i briefly maintained a lisp machine newsreader in the mid 80s. my concern is the capabilities of the c-client news code. i'll need to understand what it can and can't do a little better. richard -- Richard Welty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php _______________________________________________ Mahogany-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mahogany-developers
