On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Richard Welty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
RW> > I would be willing to turn on some newsgroups (astually already did - RW> > one from my ISP) and start including News in my regular testing procedures. RW> RW> i'd suggest not doing this right away. Well, I must admit I did it because I was having trouble posting to my ISP's internal user news group. It seems we complained so loudly they just 437'ed the news group as a response :-( RW> 1) it's going to take me a while to get oriented and start chipping away at RW> things (and i do propose to start by chipping away.) Chipping is fine because QA can check chips a lot more finely than if you just commit the whole project in one ot two hits! And, if you do your dev on your Debian machine then when I look at it on my Mandrake we should have faitrly common view raher than you developing with MSW and me trying to follow under GTK. We can deal with cross platform differences on the prettying / tidying up stages when the bulk of the work is done. RW> 2) what i will be doing is subscribing to one medium volume technical group RW> (i've been using comp.lang.tcl for my experiments) and work at it until i RW> find reading it tolerable. when i get to that point, it'll probably be time RW> to start some regular QA. At present I compile almost daily (M & wxWindows CVS HEAD) so whatever you commit, I'll (hopefully) notice and test. RW> > Not that I have noticed. I haven't used News since I swapped to Linux RW> > but used RW> > is in conjunction with Hamster news/mail server with Win2K. RW> RW> > My initial thoughts are there are two major initial glaring problems: RW> > RW> > a. It treats NNTP servers like IMAP server (ie it is basically an online RW> > news reader not offline) RW> RW> absolutely. this was the second thing that jumped out at me. RW> RW> > b. It does not have a .newsrc use functionality. RW> RW> the third thing i noticed RW> RW> > The "create a folder for every group" concept is not going to scale to RW> > news reading. RW> RW> this was the first thing that jumped out at me. Those being the case, I think we can work together nicely! RW> likely we'll want a news version of the explorer pane on the left side that RW> replaces the mail folder pane. this is speculative right now, there's a lot RW> to think about. i like some of the GUI for the left side bookmarks pane in RW> version 7.x of Opera, and maybe it should be looked at as an example for Haven't looked at Opera for years so I'll have to have a gander at it. Actually, like I mentioned yesterday to Vadim, I would love it if the present three windows M users for displaying data could become three undocked windows that users can move / size to their hearts content. RW> possible futures for mahogany. And if it (what a pity ;-) ) ends up being unable to create news messages in HTML, I shall be very happy ;-D RW> > I would also suggest we examine the only standard for functionality I RW> > have RW> > been able to find for News readers ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ ) RW> > and let RW> > that guide us as we proceed. What do you reckon? Does this seem sound as RW> > a RW> > guideline? RW> RW> i'll have to take a look at it. i don't think i've seen that doc before. RW> RW> > I must also get a copy of the RFC and see what it says. RW> RW> enjoy. it's been a while since i read it, but NNTP is a fairly RW> straightforward protocol as i recall. i haven't fooled around with RW> newsreader code since i briefly maintained a lisp machine newsreader in the RW> mid 80s. RFC977 hasn't been superceeded since 1986. I guess we can consider it a mature protocol by now ;-) RW> my concern is the capabilities of the c-client news code. i'll need RW> to understand what it can and can't do a little better. Indeed :-) TIA Dr. QA ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php _______________________________________________ Mahogany-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mahogany-developers
