> Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any
specific reason ? >Just curious.

Its my freedom to use 'any program I like in the GNU distribution. As you
know, this freedom is granted to me by the GNU/GPL. If I think, nothing
prevents me from doing this. There is no IPC####, which says "You shall not
use 'mail' or sendmail commands". There is no sentence in the Bible, which
says "Thou shall not use mail and sendmail commands".  :-) I know that you
are curious, but this is the only reason.

> If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support SMTP),
it is pretty easy to > setup it in email client and send emails through
email clients.
I feel mail and sendmail commands are easier than that.

> If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something similar
to phpmailer which > use SMTP (authenticated) internally ?
I will try that later on.

> The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script - is
not a good idea >(AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send
may end up reaching the spam / bulk >folder.
I don't know whether the lack of SMTP authentication causes the problem. I
will check if its possible to do that using mail or sendmail command.

Thanks,
Jos Collin
2009/2/11 Dinkar Mohana Pai <[email protected]>

> Hello
> Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any
> specific reason ? Just curious.
>
> If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support SMTP),
> it is pretty easy to setup it in email client and send emails through email
> clients.
>
> If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something similar
> to phpmailer which use SMTP (authenticated) internally ?
>
> The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script - is
> not a good idea (AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send may
> end up reaching the spam / bulk folder.
>
> Best Regards
> Din.
>
> On 11-Feb-09, at 5:31 PM, Jos Collin wrote:
>
> I'm sorry to send this email to the community. The emails, which I have
> sent using the 'mail' command are going to the spam folder. I did'nt notice
> that before sending this email. Now I became an expert in mail and sendmail
> commands.
>
> Let me explain my new problem to you. I can send and email from the command
> line to anybody I like. But if I keep on sending emails for more than a day,
> the Spam filter (in the server) filters it and moving it to the Spam folder.
> I want my emails to appear in the Inbox folder. So is there anything, which
> I can specify in my emails so that they can bypass the spam filter? Or is
> there any other method to bypass the Spam filter? For eg, If I send an email
> to a gmail address using 'mail' command, it should bypass the Spam filter
> and go to the Inbox instead of going to the Spam folder.
>
> Please give your inputs.
>
> Thanks,
> Jos Collin
>
> 2009/2/11 Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]>
>
>> Dear Jos,
>>
>> 1) Please put an more 'understandable' subject in the subject line.  The
>> word 'mail' is altogether vague.
>>
>> 2) Using / Sending out your mail as 'root' is a BIG BAD NO. No matter how
>> much a whiz you are, its bad. As in, B-A-D.
>>
>> Which distro do you use? (sorry, evident from the logs)
>>
>> What package does it support? (sorry, evident from the logs)
>>
>> (But had to wait till this thread to understand it)
>>
>> Did you 'purge' the package or just 'remove' it? Because if you'd just
>> 'remove'd it, the conf files would still be there, and it'd work perfectly
>> if you install it back. Only 'purging' do take away the conf files too, with
>> it..
>>
>> I believe debian uses Exim4 instead of Sendmail by default as the MTA.
>>
>> Sorry, but were you connected to internet? (hey, I said sorry beforehand,
>> ok?)
>>
>> --- On Fri, 6/2/09, Jos Collin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > pri=120443, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.
>> > [209.85.143.27], dsn=5.0.0,
>> > stat=Service unavailable
>> > Feb  6 13:16:55 debian sm-mta[3880]: n167kCGM003877:
>> > n167ktGM003880: DSN:
>> > Service unavailable
>>
>> I think google SMTP server _at least_ requires SSL authentication. Check
>> your sendmail.cf to see if it tries to authenticate at every instance.
>>
>> Your actual username at google, for authentication, is "@googlemail.com"
>> and not "@gmail.com". Check for that.
>>
>> To the best of my belief (correct me if I'm wrong), google doesn't do SMTP
>> on port 25. Its either port 465 (with SSL) or port 587 (with TLS).
>>
>> More info here:
>> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=78775
>>
>> Suggestion: Ditch Sendmail, use postfix (hey, its only a suggestion, don't
>> bite me) ;-)
>>
>> Disclaimer: I'm no mail expert... YMMV!
>>
>> No worries,
>> Mahesh Aravind
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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