> Gmail always sends unauthenticated mails to spam folders... Sometimes not. I was able to send it to Inbox a few days ago. Then it became Spam. Now the emails going to the Inbox, when I stopped sending them for a day. It is funny if I think about the logic the Spam filter of gmail uses.
2009/2/12 Fayaz useful <[email protected]> > Gmail always sends unauthenticated mails to spam folders... > I just fell in love with my life... > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:56, Jos Collin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any >> specific reason ? >Just curious. >> >> Its my freedom to use 'any program I like in the GNU distribution. As you >> know, this freedom is granted to me by the GNU/GPL. If I think, nothing >> prevents me from doing this. There is no IPC####, which says "You shall not >> use 'mail' or sendmail commands". There is no sentence in the Bible, which >> says "Thou shall not use mail and sendmail commands". :-) I know that you >> are curious, but this is the only reason. >> >> > If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support >> SMTP), it is pretty easy to > setup it in email client and send emails >> through email clients. >> I feel mail and sendmail commands are easier than that. >> >> > If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something >> similar to phpmailer which > use SMTP (authenticated) internally ? >> I will try that later on. >> >> > The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script - >> is not a good idea >(AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send >> may end up reaching the spam / bulk >folder. >> I don't know whether the lack of SMTP authentication causes the problem. I >> will check if its possible to do that using mail or sendmail command. >> >> Thanks, >> Jos Collin >> 2009/2/11 Dinkar Mohana Pai <[email protected]> >> >> Hello >>> Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any >>> specific reason ? Just curious. >>> >>> If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support SMTP), >>> it is pretty easy to setup it in email client and send emails through email >>> clients. >>> >>> If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something similar >>> to phpmailer which use SMTP (authenticated) internally ? >>> >>> The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script - >>> is not a good idea (AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send >>> may end up reaching the spam / bulk folder. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Din. >>> >>> On 11-Feb-09, at 5:31 PM, Jos Collin wrote: >>> >>> I'm sorry to send this email to the community. The emails, which I have >>> sent using the 'mail' command are going to the spam folder. I did'nt notice >>> that before sending this email. Now I became an expert in mail and sendmail >>> commands. >>> >>> Let me explain my new problem to you. I can send and email from the >>> command line to anybody I like. But if I keep on sending emails for more >>> than a day, the Spam filter (in the server) filters it and moving it to the >>> Spam folder. I want my emails to appear in the Inbox folder. So is there >>> anything, which I can specify in my emails so that they can bypass the spam >>> filter? Or is there any other method to bypass the Spam filter? For eg, If I >>> send an email to a gmail address using 'mail' command, it should bypass the >>> Spam filter and go to the Inbox instead of going to the Spam folder. >>> >>> Please give your inputs. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jos Collin >>> >>> 2009/2/11 Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Dear Jos, >>>> >>>> 1) Please put an more 'understandable' subject in the subject line. The >>>> word 'mail' is altogether vague. >>>> >>>> 2) Using / Sending out your mail as 'root' is a BIG BAD NO. No matter >>>> how much a whiz you are, its bad. As in, B-A-D. >>>> >>>> Which distro do you use? (sorry, evident from the logs) >>>> >>>> What package does it support? (sorry, evident from the logs) >>>> >>>> (But had to wait till this thread to understand it) >>>> >>>> Did you 'purge' the package or just 'remove' it? Because if you'd just >>>> 'remove'd it, the conf files would still be there, and it'd work perfectly >>>> if you install it back. Only 'purging' do take away the conf files too, >>>> with >>>> it.. >>>> >>>> I believe debian uses Exim4 instead of Sendmail by default as the MTA. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but were you connected to internet? (hey, I said sorry >>>> beforehand, ok?) >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 6/2/09, Jos Collin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> > pri=120443, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. >>>> > [209.85.143.27], dsn=5.0.0, >>>> > stat=Service unavailable >>>> > Feb 6 13:16:55 debian sm-mta[3880]: n167kCGM003877: >>>> > n167ktGM003880: DSN: >>>> > Service unavailable >>>> >>>> I think google SMTP server _at least_ requires SSL authentication. Check >>>> your sendmail.cf to see if it tries to authenticate at every instance. >>>> >>>> Your actual username at google, for authentication, is "@googlemail.com" >>>> and not "@gmail.com". Check for that. >>>> >>>> To the best of my belief (correct me if I'm wrong), google doesn't do >>>> SMTP on port 25. Its either port 465 (with SSL) or port 587 (with TLS). >>>> >>>> More info here: >>>> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=78775 >>>> >>>> Suggestion: Ditch Sendmail, use postfix (hey, its only a suggestion, >>>> don't bite me) ;-) >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: I'm no mail expert... YMMV! >>>> >>>> No worries, >>>> Mahesh Aravind >>>> >>>> >>>> Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. 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