Gmail always sends unauthenticated mails to spam folders...
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On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:56, Jos Collin <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any
> specific reason ? >Just curious.
>
> Its my freedom to use 'any program I like in the GNU distribution. As you
> know, this freedom is granted to me by the GNU/GPL. If I think, nothing
> prevents me from doing this. There is no IPC####, which says "You shall not
> use 'mail' or sendmail commands". There is no sentence in the Bible, which
> says "Thou shall not use mail and sendmail commands".  :-) I know that you
> are curious, but this is the only reason.
>
> > If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support SMTP),
> it is pretty easy to > setup it in email client and send emails through
> email clients.
> I feel mail and sendmail commands are easier than that.
>
> > If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something similar
> to phpmailer which > use SMTP (authenticated) internally ?
> I will try that later on.
>
> > The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script -
> is not a good idea >(AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send
> may end up reaching the spam / bulk >folder.
> I don't know whether the lack of SMTP authentication causes the problem. I
> will check if its possible to do that using mail or sendmail command.
>
> Thanks,
> Jos Collin
> 2009/2/11 Dinkar Mohana Pai <[email protected]>
>
> Hello
>> Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any
>> specific reason ? Just curious.
>>
>> If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support SMTP),
>> it is pretty easy to setup it in email client and send emails through email
>> clients.
>>
>> If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something similar
>> to phpmailer which use SMTP (authenticated) internally ?
>>
>> The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script - is
>> not a good idea (AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send may
>> end up reaching the spam / bulk folder.
>>
>>  Best Regards
>> Din.
>>
>> On 11-Feb-09, at 5:31 PM, Jos Collin wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry to send this email to the community. The emails, which I have
>> sent using the 'mail' command are going to the spam folder. I did'nt notice
>> that before sending this email. Now I became an expert in mail and sendmail
>> commands.
>>
>> Let me explain my new problem to you. I can send and email from the
>> command line to anybody I like. But if I keep on sending emails for more
>> than a day, the Spam filter (in the server) filters it and moving it to the
>> Spam folder. I want my emails to appear in the Inbox folder. So is there
>> anything, which I can specify in my emails so that they can bypass the spam
>> filter? Or is there any other method to bypass the Spam filter? For eg, If I
>> send an email to a gmail address using 'mail' command, it should bypass the
>> Spam filter and go to the Inbox instead of going to the Spam folder.
>>
>> Please give your inputs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jos Collin
>>
>> 2009/2/11 Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Dear Jos,
>>>
>>> 1) Please put an more 'understandable' subject in the subject line.  The
>>> word 'mail' is altogether vague.
>>>
>>> 2) Using / Sending out your mail as 'root' is a BIG BAD NO. No matter how
>>> much a whiz you are, its bad. As in, B-A-D.
>>>
>>> Which distro do you use? (sorry, evident from the logs)
>>>
>>> What package does it support? (sorry, evident from the logs)
>>>
>>> (But had to wait till this thread to understand it)
>>>
>>> Did you 'purge' the package or just 'remove' it? Because if you'd just
>>> 'remove'd it, the conf files would still be there, and it'd work perfectly
>>> if you install it back. Only 'purging' do take away the conf files too, with
>>> it..
>>>
>>> I believe debian uses Exim4 instead of Sendmail by default as the MTA.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but were you connected to internet? (hey, I said sorry beforehand,
>>> ok?)
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 6/2/09, Jos Collin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > pri=120443, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.
>>> > [209.85.143.27], dsn=5.0.0,
>>> > stat=Service unavailable
>>> > Feb  6 13:16:55 debian sm-mta[3880]: n167kCGM003877:
>>> > n167ktGM003880: DSN:
>>> > Service unavailable
>>>
>>> I think google SMTP server _at least_ requires SSL authentication. Check
>>> your sendmail.cf to see if it tries to authenticate at every instance.
>>>
>>> Your actual username at google, for authentication, is "@googlemail.com"
>>> and not "@gmail.com". Check for that.
>>>
>>> To the best of my belief (correct me if I'm wrong), google doesn't do
>>> SMTP on port 25. Its either port 465 (with SSL) or port 587 (with TLS).
>>>
>>> More info here:
>>> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=78775
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Ditch Sendmail, use postfix (hey, its only a suggestion,
>>> don't bite me) ;-)
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: I'm no mail expert... YMMV!
>>>
>>> No worries,
>>> Mahesh Aravind
>>>
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