Now it's funny readind the mailing list. Really funny. Mr. Dinkar Pai has the point, the real point!! This should be the attitude of every LUGs or else nothing is going to happen. Being an extremist is of no use.
Have lots of fun! OpenSuse 11.3 to be released on July15. Regards, Dibu On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send Mailinglist mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mailinglist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: extremists in the free software world (Dinkar Mohana Pai) > 2. Re: extremists in the free software world (Praveen A) > 3. Need your help ([email protected]) > 4. Re: extremists in the free software world (sreekanth sasikanth) > 5. Re: Contribution of Hardware (shihab shiha) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:18:57 +0530 > From: Dinkar Mohana Pai <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software " > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] extremists in the free software world > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Quoting ... > > > So to put it short - When you say - "Think of Adobe Dreeamweaver as > > an example. As far as I know there are no substitute for that in the > > free or opensource section, not even near to that" - you are not fit > > for being a part of this community as you are using GNU / Free > > Software just for your selfishness and you may never have had true > > respect and allegiance to a community /a brotherhood that creates > > Software just for the fun of it :) > > > > WOW That was slightly more than what I expected, but it is ok ;) > > I started using Mozilla suite from the very beginning. When IE was the > only browser in the IBM ACE lab in Cochin and CDs and CD drives were > not very common in the lab, I cut the mozilla suite into small pieces > using some software and took it to the lab, took me 4 days or so and > once it is all done, all computers had it and that was the first time > most of my friends were browsing internet using something other than > IE. No, I am not boasting things, but the point was > > There are good alternatives to paid or closed source in the opensource > section. Which are great in functionalities and quite reliable and > robust too. Best examples (almost all I use) which are very useful for > developers as well as common people are - Firefox, Thunderbird, > Filezilla, Pidgin, OpenOffice, Gimp, VLC, Sumatra, Infrarecorder, > Sunbird, Audacity, 7 Zip and the list goes on. Even an MS guy will > agree on this list. > > On the other hand, I repeat again, There are no alternatives to > product like DW - yet. That is a statement not against Opensource but > it is a fact. And where this selfishness comes from? Think of this > scenario. You are a developer and the client want you to do the > project using DW and many functionalities of DW. You first try a lot > of alternatives and come back to DW as there are no other options. Now > are you selfish? Never! I mentioned the example of DW because I have > the right to mention that. In other words, I have tried a lot of > alternatives and could not find something competent enough to DW. And > I proudly use most of the softwares I mentioned above because they > work for me very well. Whenever I see someone using paid/pirated/ > proprietary software instead of the list I ask them to try it and in > almost all cases they were very happy about it. > > Now, do I qualify for being a part of the community ? Or it is > strictly for people using only Opensource and nothing else ? (lol, > just kidding, now do not take it seriously) > > I am the person who created the ILUG Cochin website version 2 and > version 3 without using any proprietary softwares. And those pages > were not that bad, worked even in a text only browser ! > > Please leave the 'selfish' part, other than that all is well :) > > Best Regards > Din. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:47:14 +0530 > From: Praveen A <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] extremists in the free software world > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2010/7/2 Suresh Balasubramanian <[email protected]>: > > We need more and more people adopting free/open/"whatever" software. > That's > > it! > > There are many reasons why someone would use or promote Free > Software/Open Source. What you mentioned above is one such reason. > There are people who fully believe in it and there are people who > think that is not enough. So lets work on things we agree on together > still keeping difference in opinions. > > -- > ???????? ??????????????????? > <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! > <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? > (as seen on /.) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: 3 Jul 2010 15:31:20 +0530 > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Need your help > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100703/33465f60/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:29:00 +0530 (IST) > From: sreekanth sasikanth <[email protected]> > To: GPL SoftwareThis List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] extremists in the free software world > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello all, > > The problem that we are seeing now is that, everyone is only > complaining against each other. Rather why dont we think in this way. If > there is no replacement for DW, then lets make one!! :). I know, sounds > tough, but we have an international community over here we are working with > and i believe if we can work as a team it might be possible. I wonder why > both the groups who have been fighting on this topic never thought in this > way!! I see that Dinkar would be knowing (or may be he knows someone who > knows DW very well) what are the main features that attract a Web Designer > in Dreamweaver the most. When i did a google, i found this link which gives > the list of what could be the "Alternatives" to DW. Wont it be possible to > take anyone project and modify it to include these "attractive" features in > DW, which appeal to a Web Designer??. At least we could give a try. I am not > a programmer as such, but i feel we have never taken such an initiative > before (according to my limited knowledge). Here is a link from osalt.com > > http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver > > Best regards > S.Sreekanth > > --- On Sat, 3/7/10, Praveen A <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Praveen A <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] extremists in the free software world > > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" < > [email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, 3 July, 2010, 12:47 PM > > 2010/7/2 Suresh Balasubramanian > > <[email protected]>: > > > We need more and more people adopting > > free/open/"whatever" software. That's > > > it! > > > > There are many reasons why someone would use or promote > > Free > > Software/Open Source. What you mentioned above is one such > > reason. > > There are people who fully believe in it and there are > > people who > > think that is not enough. So lets work on things we agree > > on together > > still keeping difference in opinions. > > > > -- > > ???????? > > ??????????????????? > > <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! > > <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to > > speak? > > (as seen on /.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > #[email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 11:17:11 -0700 > From: shihab shiha <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Contribution of Hardware > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > i can give a working smps . bt i dont how to give . i am staying in > changaramkulam . malappuram district . > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Dinkar Mohana Pai <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello > > > > I make Cochin-Wayand and Wayanad-Cochin trips once in two months. I can > > pickup it. > > > > Free shipping ;) > > > > Free in all the sense lol > > > > Best Regards > > Din. > > > > On 29-Jun-10, at 8:26 PM, Madhu Kannan wrote: > > > >> i will donate my old pc if somebody pics it up form calicut > >> > >> On 6/27/10, Sameer <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello All, > >>> > >>> The government aided "Brahmapuram UP School" is in want of the > society's > >>> support. At present they need hardware to teach their children IT. The > >>> Brahmpuram school which is nearly 40 years old has been suffering from > >>> the > >>> beginning, since several projects in and around the location caused > 100's > >>> families to relocate causing lot of children to leave the school. At > >>> present > >>> the school strength is 43 students. > >>> > >>> The school lab only has 2 machines in poor working conditions. If the > >>> Free > >>> Software community can bring together old hardware to implement a thin > >>> client solution, which would the most feasible one for the school, it > >>> would > >>> be a big achievement for the society as a whole. > >>> > >>> Please find any old/ unused hardware you wish to contribute for this > just > >>> cause. > >>> > >>> Contact me through mail or @9995717112 so we can realize this small but > >>> important task. > >>> > >>> Thank You > >>> Regards > >>> Sameer Mohamed Thahir > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > >>> http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > >>> > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > >>> #[email protected] > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Photography... > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/madhukannan2009/ > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/madhukannan/ > >> > >> Blogs... > >> http://bitsnclicks.blogspot.com/ > >> http://clickedbymadhukannan.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > >> http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > >> > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > >> #[email protected] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > #[email protected] > > > > > > -- > shiha > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] > > End of Mailinglist Digest, Vol 85, Issue 10 > ******************************************* >
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