Lets stop this non sense. This happens here every other time some newbie ( even am a newbie) comes n ask something. Take for examplehttp://tex.stackexchange.com/; found it a very very helpful site foe queries related to LaTeX. But our mailing list is more concerned with the philosophies of freedom rather than helping. Please understand the fact that if such strong philosophies are being preached, nobody would be able to use even Ubuntu or Fedora, 'cos they are not Free according to RMS himself! I've heard some of his speeches and he lists out freedom issues with most of the common 'Linux' distros out here.
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html lists the 'free' distros. So does all the members of ILUG-Kochi use only these distros? Most of us started with Ubuntu and then maybe shifted to openSUSE or Fedora or others. Lets have freedom to choose, and help. I understand it is important to know the GNU philosophy; so the next time a newbie uses the term Linux and not GNU/Linux when asking a question, please help him by answering his question and then provide him a link to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html. If he has time, he'll click on it, and if he is interested, he'll continue reading and try following them. His Freedom! Lets instead use this ML to promote new ideas, share them, and most importantly help others solve their problems! Now please don't take this mail as another attack on anyone. Writing this just because I'd love to see this ML grow as the best resource for anybody to approach to solve technical problems and clear doubts. For philosophy and history, there is always http://www.gnu.org/ and http://www.fsf.org/. Regards, Dibu John Philip Cell : +91 94 9633 7069 E-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]><http://twitter.com/dibujphilip> WWW: http://djnetworkz.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/dibujphilip On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Deepu Joseph <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello Jos, > > The following line is taken from your website at :http://joscollin.org > > If you call the system "the Linux System" then you are giving the credit >> to Linus Torvalds, who did very less. So I strongly recommend everyone to >> call the system the GNU Operating System. > > > Like a lot of other people, your reasons for calling it as GNU/Linux > clearly appears to be political rather than philosophical. And I don't know > if you realise, brother, but the politics is killing your philosophy. > > Regards, > Deepu > > On 6 February 2012 03:41, Jos Collin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > without some people being practical). An interesting anecdote of which >> was >> > the BIOS issue (BIOS firmware being non-free and proprietary), if any of >> > you remember the same. RMS uses "semi"-laptop because there are no >> > completely free/open source laptop (including BIOS) available on market. >> > How many of us are ready to do something like that, does it even make >> sense >> > for each of us to do that. >> >> Lemote. >> >> RMS uses Lemote. >> http://www.ilug-cochin.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/10.jpg >> >> > Now "that"(freedom in software) is one of the >> > things I care about. There are many other things that I care about, like >> > giving basic education for kids, to inspire some of them follow research >> > etc and many others outside education, like freedom of speech etc. Now >> > when I draw the line towards being over idealistic in one specific >> > directions, I have to compromise on others or not be successful in any >> of >> > them. So at the end of the day, it is a personal choice. Now using the >> > term "GNU/Linux" : I tend to use GNU/Linux whenever possible but don't >> try >> > to be a word-nazi. If I feel that, the person don't know about free >> > software, I try to inspire them to it and let them to choose. >> >> But the personal choice should not be wrong like "Linux Operating System". >> >> > It is kind of a waste of all our time to repeat the >> > same thing over and again, >> >> You will feel that it is a waste, if you don't recognize the value of >> freedom. I understand >> that you are explaining your convenience and not freedom. >> >> > so that we can >> > spent the remaining time in contributing effectively to make the free >> > software community stronger. Let us all contribute in code, design or >> > something creative than just thru arguments. The code is mightier than >> the >> > word. ;) >> >> You have to do coding. But that's a secondary thing, which has lesser >> importance >> compared to the Free Software movement. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List >> http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ >> http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org >> #[email protected] >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] >
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