On 08/30/2017 03:45 AM, Terry . wrote: > > Below is the whole thing including headers and unsubscribe email attachment. > > BTW, does this list allow me to attach files? Might do that next time.
You can attach files, but only plain text (MIME types text/plain and text/x-diff) will make it to the list. > I've obfuscated some parts with "XXX". Here it is. See more comments below > the email. > > > Return-Path: <mailman-boun...@serverxxx.webhostingbuzz.com> > Delivered-To: te...@xxx.net > Received: from serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com > by serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com with LMTP id gHWCD8eMplm6SwAA9jRSrA > for <te...@xxx.net>; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:39 -0500 > Return-path: <mailman-boun...@serverxxx.webhostingbuzz.com> > Envelope-to: te...@xxx.net > Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:39 -0500 > Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=58524 helo=serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com) > by serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.89) > (envelope-from <mailman-boun...@serverxxx.webhostingbuzz.com>) > id 1dmznb-00069e-4b > for te...@xxx.net; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:39 -0500 > Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=58490 helo=serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com) > by serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.89) > (envelope-from <all-boun...@rivexxx.org.nz>) > id 1dmznZ-000681-Me > for all-ow...@rivexxx.org.nz; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:37 -0500 > Subject: Bounce action notification > From: mail...@rivexxx.org.nz > To: all-ow...@rivexxx.org.nz > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4320979077890092118==" > Message-ID: <mailman.4.1504087236.1346.all_rivexxx.org...@rivexxx.org.nz> > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:36 -0500 > Precedence: list > X-BeenThere: a...@rivexxx.org.nz > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 > List-Id: RLC All <all.riveXXX.org.nz> > X-List-Administrivia: yes > Errors-To: mailman-boun...@serverxxx.webhostingbuzz.com > Sender: "ALL" <mailman-boun...@serverxxx.webhostingbuzz.com> > > --===============4320979077890092118== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: > > List: ALL > Member: te...@xxx.net > Action: Subscription bounce score incremented. > Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. > > > > The triggering bounce notice is attached below. > > Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at > mail...@rivexxx.org.nz. > > --===============4320979077890092118== > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: ALL unsubscribe notification > From: mailman-boun...@rivexxx.org.nz > To: all-ow...@rivexxx.org.nz > Precedence: list > Message-ID: <mailman.0.1504087235.23494.all_rivexxx.org...@rivexxx.org.nz> > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:35 -0500 > X-BeenThere: a...@rivexxx.org.nz > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 > List-Id: RLC All <all.riveXXX.org.nz> > X-List-Administrivia: yes > Errors-To: mailman-boun...@rivexxx.org.nz > Sender: "ALL" <mailman-boun...@rivexxx.org.nz> > > x...@xxxtraining.co.nz has been removed from ALL. > > > --===============4320979077890092118==-- > > > That's the end of it. > > > In this case my email address is both the owner and an UNmoderated member of > the list, but I get the same problem when the owner address is not a member > of the list at all. This is very strange. First of all, the "Bounce action notification" notice about > Member: te...@xxx.net > Action: Subscription bounce score incremented. should only occur when te...@xxx.net is a member of the list; never when it's not. Also, the notice you post has only two MIME parts; the text/plain notice and the message/rfc822 message that bounced part. This latter part should normally be the DSN (Delivery Status Notification), not the message that bounced. Thus, it appears that this message is somehow being processed as a bounce instead of being sent to the owner. I would like to see all of the MTA (Exim) log messages relating to the messages with Message-IDs <mailman.0.1504087235.23494.all_rivexxx.org...@rivexxx.org.nz> and <mailman.4.1504087236.1346.all_rivexxx.org...@rivexxx.org.nz>. Also, Mailman's bounce, smtp and smtp-failure log messages from around Wed, 30 Aug 2017 04:45 to 05:01 may help. Although, this appears to be cPanel, so you may not have access to these things - see <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030641>. > If I click my email address link from the Membership List page, it says this > near the top, in case it is relevant: > > > "We have received some recent bounces from your address. Your current bounce > score is 2.0 out of a maximum of 20.0. Please double check that your > subscribed address is correct and that there are no problems with delivery to > this address. Your bounce score will be automatically reset if the problems > are corrected soon." That's normal. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. 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