Hi again Mark,

> I would like to see all of the MTA (Exim) log messages relating to the
> messages with Message-IDs
> <mailman.0.1504087235.23494.all_rivexxx.org...@rivexxx.org.nz> and
> <mailman.4.1504087236.1346.all_rivexxx.org...@rivexxx.org.nz>.

> Also, Mailman's bounce, smtp and smtp-failure log messages from around
> Wed, 30 Aug 2017 04:45 to 05:01 may help.

> Although, this appears to be cPanel, so you may not have access to these
> things - see  <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030641>.


You're right - I don't have such access, but thanks for the interesting link.  
I'm not yet sure if the webhost will provide these, but I might ask them if 
needed.


However, here's the latest development.  I created bugte...@whatever-domain.com 
lists for each of my 7 domains, then for each list, I:

- Set owner to my address,

- Set admin_notify_mchanges to "Yes",

- Took a few other Yes/No options which shouldn't matter, the same for each 
list),

- Subscribed X address to the list,

- Then unsubscribed X address from the list.

The result was, only 3 of the 7 lists sent me subscription and unsubscribe 
emails.  The other 4 sent nothing!  (I confirmed this from the command line 
where I could see the emails which I received a few levels under the ~/mail 
directory on the server.  I also confirmed the lists are basically the same by 
dumping & comparing their settings with a Perl script I wrote, which uses 
Perl's WWW::Mailman module.)


Does it sound as if cPanel or the webhost have caused some problems with the 
mailman installation?


Should I take this up with the webhost, (who will probably have to pass it on 
to cPanel), or do you have any ideas?


I'm using cPanel 11 66.0.17, in case anyone is interested.


Thanks again.

Terry
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