> On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Mi den 15. Feb 2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins: >> >>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 6:51 AM, G. Miliotis <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On 15/2/2017 16:12, David Schweikert wrote: >>>> In other words: if Hetzner doesn't behave well according to accepted >>>> common rules, they should be publicly marked as such, so that it becomes >>>> a problem between Hetzner and Microsoft >>> >>> MS doesn't care about hetzner's customers and vice versa. >>> >>> Now if MS actually took responsibility for their blocks and effectively >>> announced that "here's a list of cloud and server providers where we've >>> blocked /16's" or a count of how many blocks they have per ISP, that would >>> make hetzner move. Cause the customers could point at that and say, "screw >>> you, I'm not buying your server, I can't talk to hotmail???. >> >> If Hertzner cared they could sign up for the MS SNDS program and see a list >> of all the IPs that were currently blocked. > > So you want them to sign up for every existing mail provider to check > regularly if they might have been blocked cause the mail provider do not > like them as they have blue colored servers.
The statement I was replying to said MS should announce what they’re blocking. I pointed out that MS does provide that information to the appropriate parties. The sign up process is about ownership and confirming that the person asking for the data has some operational responsibility and can make changes if they so choose. And, yes, many network providers sign up at “all the mailbox providers” to keep tabs on their networks. laura -- Having an Email Crisis? 800 823-9674 Laura Atkins Word to the Wise [email protected] (650) 437-0741 Email Delivery Blog: http://wordtothewise.com/blog
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