Just because you are talking about this.. (I guess I could 'google')
Why the use of POP3 and not IMAP? I also assume of course that you ONLY allow POP3/SSL and IMAP/SSL, and aren't sending those clear text ;)

But again, this is mostly 'moot', unless a person only uses the Gmail webmail interface..

Let them access both accounts using IMAP, and simply drag/drop to the storage they want to keep them in ;)

But the issue mainly arises in people who use webmail as their primary email client. And with an app. 15-25% of consumers using webmail as their primary client, this needs addressing as well.

Which is why we are working towards webmail clients (well, really you have to just say 'web clients') that can handle multiple accounts through a single login.. Just as many desktops actually even use separate IMAP connections, even as granular as individual folders, it will eventually have to be unified.

All clients will simply have the ability to consolidate many IMAP streams, even if the streams come from multiple sources..

And of course, eventually it will merge many 'streams', regardless of the underlying protocols used.. (eg XMPP, IMAP, HTTPS) and what the data is returned.. Umm.. I believe we call that 'Unified Communications'..

And whom ever provides that unified tool, if it is cloud based (eg your ISP, or Gmail, or an App Provider) will end up having that authentication information stored, whether it is password based or not.

The 'security' conscious might use a unified tool (if you can still call it an email client) that is desktop/device based, but more likely the trend to the 'cloud' will continue.

The client that presents the best 'unified experience' will ultimately win.. And the person using it will only be remembering one password or using one token to access that tool, regardless of the underlying 'data streams' and their individual authentication methods.

It will boil down to usability, and cost of service, and trust that the 'client' provider will treat your data with privacy, security, and respect.

Now, I better get back to work, earn some money, so we can continue to grow, and be bigger, better, and faster than everyone else..




On 17-11-10 01:52 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:



On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 8:11 AM Rob Nagler <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


        Does Gmail ask for the POP3 password every time, or do they
        store it ?


They store it. Just like they do with SMTP passwords.

On the one hand, I totally sympathize with that position, though the difference between having it on some device that can be lost/hacked vs a cloud service... I guess cloud services can be hacked in bulk, but chances are your users are already just re-using their email password, and so that ship has sailed.

I haven't kept up with oauth recently, have they solved the discovery problem?  If so, I can file a bug to have our pop fetcher switch to support oauth, but that would come with a bunch of work on your end to support that (I don't think anything supports that out of the box yet).

There's also Gmailify instead of pop fetch.  It uses IMAP and oauth, but it has a small whitelist of services it works with, partially due to oauth, partially due to IMAP being a more complicated protocol, and mostly just being overly cautious.

Brandon


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