Well, not just that. For some reason, except the valid email addresses with %firstname%.%lastna...@domain.tld, I am seeing a lot of %na...@domain.tld emails coming from Facebook, which does not exist and you can't just follow unsubscribe links to these. Same happens with Twitter too.
They don't even check if these emails belong to valid users, they happily accept these. And in my case, maybe these were before validation code checks. Now, maybe using a validation service CAN be acceptable to reduce these for them. But still doesn't solve the opt-in problem where a validated user keeps getting spam that they do not want. So my take on validation services would only be they promote spam in a way, whether it's black or gray... M. Omer GOLGELI --- AS202365 https://as202365.peeringdb.com https://bgp.he.net/AS202365 January 17, 2020 12:47 PM, "Mark Foster" <blak...@blakjak.net> wrote: > ... because other users of Facebook can give your email address to Facebook > in order to trigger an invite to join Facebook. And then you get reminders, > again and again. > It was eventually possible to 'unsubscribe' so that further invites would > not be generated, but this again runs against common wisdom not to confirm > your email address as valid to an unsolicited sender. > And fair enough - why should you have to in the first place? > > For similar reasons LinkedIn also had an awful reputation as a spammer years > ago, I expect there's still a few out there who boycott on principle alone. > It could readily be argued that your friend or colleague who gave your email > address away, has done you a wrong - but the damage is done, and in most > cases they wouldn't be aware that what they'd done was so problematic. > > Anecdotally I've not seen new social things ask for email addresses in order > to recommend/invite friends to join lately, but I havn't joined any new > services in several years either. > Did someone finally realise it was a bad idea? > > From memory - and it was years ago - I caved and used the 'do not mail me > again' links in examples from both LinkedIn and Facebook (as I have multiple > email addresses) as the path of least resistance and because at least I was > aware of both platforms and they had vague legitimacy. But it should > probably not be necessary. > > Caveat - this anecdote is quite dated. I've no idea what their current > practice is. > > Mark. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jaroslaw Rafa <r...@rafa.eu.org> > Sent: Friday, 17 January 2020 9:47 pm > To: M. Omer GOLGELI <o...@chronos.com.tr> > Cc: Mark Foster <blak...@blakjak.net>; Brandon Long <bl...@google.com>; > mailop <mailop@mailop.org>; Jay Hennigan <mailop-l...@keycodes.com> > Subject: Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] Approach to dealing with List Washing > services, industry feedback.. > > Dnia 17.01.2020 o godz. 07:16:35 M. Omer GOLGELI via mailop pisze: > >> Guess that is exactly why I don't add a whitelist rule to Facebook mails > > and let them rot in Quarantine boxes. >> If they send to unverified, non-existing users without content, no matter > > where it is from, they are spam. > > Hm... I don't understand. I don't use Facebook much, besides administering > some low-traffic fanpage, but AFAIK Facebook sends mail to the e-mail > address you gave when you registered on Facebook. And to register on > Facebook, you must have access to this e-mail address, because you have to > type in the code that is sent to this address (which meets the criteria of > double opt-in, I guess). So how it is possible to give a non-existing > address to Facebook? > -- > Regards, > Jaroslaw Rafa > r...@rafa.eu.org > -- > "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there > was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub." _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
