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On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 16:44 +0000, Gregory Heytings via mailop wrote:
> > > How can a server provider do this?  Apart from blocking port 25 of 
> > > course, and forcing all emails of their customers to go through their 
> > > SMTP server, in which case they wouldn't be selling a bare machine 
> > > anymore.  If it was "not even that difficult", I'd guess they would all 
> > > do it.
> > 
> > Linode blocks port 25 on all new accounts/servers. You need to talk to 
> > them and explain who and what you are, before they open it manually for 
> > you.
> > 
> 
> Apparently that's not a good strategy: their 509952 IPs are blocked by 
> uceprotect, too; 217 of these IPs (again 0.05%) sent spam in the last 
> seven days.  And indeed what you suggest is not a solution for the 
> WordPress site of a honest customer that get hacked, for instance.

You keep bringing up wordpress, a web application.  There is nothing
being listed by uceprotect that would prohibit a honest (or even
dishonest) customer from running a wordpress site.   Sending email from
a wordpress site is much easier to do through a MX provider than to self
host, so why are you even advocating for self hosted wordpress sites to
host their own email?

- -Jim P.
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