On 2021-11-22 10:26 a.m., Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
I've long wondered about malicious ISPs intercepting ~> hijacking outbound DNS queries

Yeah, yeah, that was what all the DoH proponents *cough* (Google/CloudFlare) kept trying to scare everyone with, but love to hear about those 'malicious' ISP's.

Thing is, anyone on the ISP network, is already a customer, and generally a more 'trusted' relationship, because the pay the ISP.

And what is that saying, about getting something for 'free'?

Don't get me wrong, there were a couple of companies that were running around paying ISP's to 'operate' their DNS servers for them, so they could collect data.. but normally they target the larger operations.

And those larger ISP's are already selling data, eg your mobile location, and other details, so I get the public perception that they aren't your friends, but 99% of the ISP's we do business with don't do anything with DNS queries, except when asked by law enforcement, or to lock down recursive queries to only their networks.

But 'malicious'? Injecting/hijacking queries? Maybe in other parts of the world, where they have government oversight/restrictions, but no normal ISP could get away for that for very long.

And frankly, using your ISP DNS servers (or your own) offers MORE privacy, eg you can't associate query data with an individual very easily.

        -- Michael --

DoH is even more scary, in that it is more directly linked to the user/device that makes the query. Not too hard for the 'big data aggregators' to correlate DNS queries to other triggering PPI.




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