Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 22 Jul 2022 10:21:44 +0100 Laura Atkins via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> napísal:
> ESPs have many, many problems, but the fixes being suggested here on > mailop are overly simplistic and evidence a lack of conceptual > understanding of how bulk email is sent in 2022. Sure, complex things has complex problems, no doubts. But IMO the right question is: "Are (big) ESPs interested in its (as sender) reputation at all?" IMO not, or at least not completely. While i do not know how they get moneys from customers, i will guess, that bigger list = more money, thus cleaning the lists = smaller lists = less money. And which company wants to get less money? I can understand (and agree), that those ESPs do not need to know about particular address list. I agree, that list cleaning is not simple task. I understand, that unsubscribing from lists (especially via link in email) is prone to confirming address/reading, and often misused by SPAMmers, thus it is often doesn't not used. Etc, etc... But they simple have to act into process, when there are permanent/repeating rejects and list's owner do not care, otherwise they will become SPAM actors/supporters. But once again, are they interested in that? The thread some time ago about googlegroups and adding address into it shows base of the problem: + from google's point of view, the manual adding method is noneffective, as only small amount of outgoing mail goes by that way + from target user's view, it is 100 % effective, as every time the address is added, it is SPAMmed And that goes to ESP (bulk mails) too. Big ESPs doesn't care about single (particular) user, they have its own percentages to decide what is acceptable. And one user have no place in its calculations. Until these (big) ESPs will not change their point of view from own percentage calculation, to target (offended) user's percentage, nothing will change. But i afraid, that this change will never happen, as many companies consider, that others have created mailbox only to they can get these crap emails... regards -- Slavko https://www.slavino.sk
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