Dnia 27.06.2025 o godz. 10:57:16 Support 3Hound via mailop pisze:
> About the fact that we (actually our customer) should not accept a
> selling agreement... Every energetic company that pay money to their
> dealers in order to get new customers, ask them not to contact their
> new customer.

So if this is the case, then the energy company should do the job of
verifying customers' email addresses themselves, not ask you to do it.

> I haven't any knowledge of that flow but I think the digital signing
> procedure link is one of the first step and need to be sent by
> e-mail.
> So if the user is not the correct one or the address is not right it
> comes to they attention very soon.

So that's actually a way of verifying the address and they are doing it
themselves. So it seems unnecessary/superfluous to ask you to do it.

> But remember we are not trying to spam, spoof or fraud anyone.

*I do* understand it (I cannot speak for the others on the list), but
because nowadays spammers do RCPT checks on a massive scale, then many
recipients treat *everyone* who does it like a spammer - simply because
there's no way to differentiate a RCPT check done with good vs bad intention.

BTW, it's interesting how times have changed. Like 10-15 years ago, RCPT
check was used as an *anti-spam* technique - quite a few anti-spam
packages implemented so called "sender address verification" on *any*
incoming mail, as it was quite common at that time to send spam with
non-existent sender addresses. There's even still a configuration option in
Postfix to turn this feature on... Now, if you do what was once an
anti-spam measure, you are treated like a spammer...

My personal opinion is that checking if an email address exists should be a
normal and allowed thing. VRFY should work, and RCPT checks should not be
penalized by the recipients. Security by obscurity (ie. by hiding the fact
of existence or non-existence of an email address) was never a very good
concept after all.

There should be probably some per-client limit on address checks that are not
associated with another email-related actions, like sending or receiving a
message, just to avoid overusing the recipient's resources. That's all.

But this does not matter as the majority seems to think otherwise... :(
-- 
Regards,
   Jaroslaw Rafa
   r...@rafa.eu.org
--
"In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there
was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub."
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