Dnia 26.02.2026 o godz. 08:10:22 Frido Otten via mailop pisze: > So why is it only Microsoft with these issues. I feel it is rather > incompetence than pushing the market. Google does it a 100 times > better. They also throttle incoming messages, but when they do, most > of the time they are right about the messages being throttled, > because of domain reputation.
Well, how do they define "domain reputation"? My domain never sent anything even remotely resembling spam to Google. It sends only person-to-person, hand-written messages - the very definition of email as it used to be. And it sends VERY LOW amount of messages, and "very low" here means even way, way lower than most people on this list consider to be "low". It varies from about 20 messages per day in "busy" periods, to even one message per few days (!) in "inactive" periods. Yet I have experienced every kind of restrictions from Google - throttling (that was very rare, most of the time the other two situations occurred), rejecting messages with a 5xx error saying that the message is "likely spam or unsolicited message", or accepting it and sending straight to recipient's Spam folder. Sometimes the issue goes away and mail goes through just fine, then suddenly it returns and I'm unable to send anything to Google. I'm fighting with this for years. And it's clearly domain related and not IP related, because when I send from the same IP but with a different domain, the mail goes through. Ironically, I had no problems with sending to Microsoft :). But from my experience with Google and from the experiences with Microsoft described here, Google isn't any better. I know that amount of my mail is probably totally unnoticeable to Google and far below their error margin, but for me it's 100% of my mail. I think they (and not only they, any big mail provider) should just take some special measures to make things easier for such "ultra low volume" senders like me - for example just whitelist them after confirming that there is an actual human acting in good faith trying to send the mail and not a spammer (it isn't so hard to confirm), with setting a reasonable limit on eg. daily number of messages in case someone cracks my server and starts to flood them with mail... It shouldn't be so hard to do. -- Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa [email protected] -- "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub." _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list [email protected] https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
