> Dnia 13.06.2026 o godz. 03:27:23 John Levine via mailop pisze: > > According to Brian Knight via mailop <[email protected]>: > > >Honest question -- are there any hosting networks that do a particularly > > >great job at keeping spammers away? I'd be happy to move my server. > > > > Panix in NYC is a very old very well run ISP. You can do mail hosting but > > you > > need to open a ticket to ask to get mail ports unblocked and explain why you > > need it. panix.com > > > > Also look at Tornado VPS tornadovps.com whosse motto is "We do not assume > > you are stupid" > > They allow sending mail by default, but I have never seen spam from them. > > They mean what > > they say. If you ask reasonable questions, you get reasonable answers. > > Dumb questions, > > not so much. > > There's one very interesting thing both in the original question and John's > answer. > > OP did not specify what country he lives in. John responds mentioning one > provider from USA, and the other also in unspecified country. > > Either John knows for sure that OP lives in the USA - in this case there's > no issue - or we have here an example of something that is widely known on > the Internet as "USA defaultism": an implicit assumption that everybody who > participates in an Internet discussion lives in the USA.
That still happens today, and I just encountered this on Twitter yesterday where someone was assuming I vote in the USA elections because they assume that I'm an America (I'm not; I'm Canadian, and my profile makes this clear). > Often, for eg. legal and financial reasons, it is preferred - or even > necessary - to host your server in the country you are living in (or at least > with a company that has an official presence in the country you are living > in), and this is the main factor influencing the choice of a provider. I > hope we'll all remember that when such questions arise. > > Just my "trzy grosze" (in USA you would probably say "$0.02", but I want to > avoid "USA defaultism" here ;)). I've noticed this approach over the years, but it seems to be starting to change over the past 5 years in particular as some American organizations are looking to have their eMail and their servers elsewhere -- we've experienced this first-hand here in Canada as some clients in the USA with no branches here have chosen to move some or all of their services across the border to us. -- Postmaster - [email protected] Randolf Richardson, CNA - [email protected] Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc. Vancouver, Beautiful British Columbia, Canada https://www.inter-corporate.com/ _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list [email protected] https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
