In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hans Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Patrick Roper schrieb: > >> One of the problems, I imagine, is that the Latin that was still in >> spoken use until the late Middle Ages had changed substantially from >> Classical Latin > >(first: thank you,) > >the changes of pronunciation of c (from k to ts) might have been in early >Emperors time (Kaiserzeit), Late rather than early; the Greeks went on transcribing it with kappa and the Germanic peoples acquired the word with initial k, and the ai diphthong as in *stainaz (hence Old High German keisar like stein, Old Engish caser like stan). In Sardinia, the k has remained unshifted: kentu '100', as it did in the diwlect of Veglia (now called Krk), before that died out at the beginning of the last century. > that of the diphthongs in the first century ante >Christum natum, as we suppose by the changing from "Claudius" to "Clodius" in >the case of plebeisation (to be a candidate for tribunus plebis) At Rome yes, down to Vespasian's time, but not in the provinces: au was preserved in Provençal and Romanian, and took a different path in French, Portuguese, and Italian from long closed o. Actually the social data of Claudius > Clodius are interesting. The radical patrician turned plebeian called himself Clodius in the lower-class manner, but his sisters were called Clodia anyway, whereas no member of the plebeian noble house of Claudii Marcelli used the -o- form; they stood on their dignity.
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