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Perhaps the real issue hear is that this list is NOT hosting not a discussion. It is rather like a sports game where each side has its own set of rules, and there is no referee. The mis-match will only occur when there are two teams on the field. If there was only one team, then they would only hear their own voices. The old talk-amongst-yourselves routine. And we might not have to listen for very long. ;-) Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > Behalf Of David Bradbury > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:33 AM > To: Discussion group for map history > Subject: Re: [MapHist] Vinland Map -- Time for a new conference > > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're > replying to the whole list) > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o > + o + o + > > Valerie Newby wrote: > > Hear! Hear! Please let's end it now and save our sanity. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Karrow" <[email protected]> > >> Why don't they start a Vinland Map list, where they can go on forever. > Moving swiftly past the slight paradox that "Hear! Hear! Please let's > end it now and save our sanity" is not quite on-topic for a map history > discussion group... > > Some of us who have studied the Vinland Map in detail (such as me, who > came at it several years ago from a longstanding interest in medieval > cartography) neither want the discussion to go on forever, nor to > ghettoise it and pretend that it's of no relevance to the study of > fakery in general. One of the biggest problems over the past 40+ years > of the Vinland Map's history has been its eminent suitability for > press-release scholarship, as we saw last summer in the wake of the > Copenhagen conference. The press (and, it seems, James Enterline) are > not interested in the complexity of the story, with which Kirsten Seaver > easily filled several hundred pages, researched over many years. Hence > the general public tend not to understand that professional historians, > particularly those with a real grounding in Scandinavian culture, gave > up on the Vinland Map within months of its revelation, because, even > without X-Ray whizzo gadgets, there were just too many reasons to be > suspicious of it. Studying the story of the Vinland Map is particularly > important for specialist curators and librarians, because ultimately it > was the librarians who were the patsies in the Map's miraculous > ascendance. > > David Bradbury > _______________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.nl > > Maphist mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist _______________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.nl Maphist mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist
